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re: Coach Jack Del Rio Bandwagon Day 2
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:53 pm to Macavity92
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:53 pm to Macavity92
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He has never coached in college. He has 10 years total coaching experience. He has never spent 1 day recruiting, much less organzing a recruiting effort on the scale of LSUs. He has only coached people who know the game not raw H.S. kids. How is this guy a good fit for LSU?
Please go back to the rant
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Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:53 pm to tigergrrl
You do realize that a serious argument could be made that he is only the 3rd best coach in his division (behind Dungy and Fisher)?
I don't get the attraction. He has no college experience. He is not the Golden Boy of the NFL. So he has Louisiana ties? I really think we can do better.
I don't get the attraction. He has no college experience. He is not the Golden Boy of the NFL. So he has Louisiana ties? I really think we can do better.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:56 pm to Macavity92
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You do realize that a serious argument could be made that he is only the 3rd best coach in his division (behind Dungy and Fisher)?
Dungy, maybe? Having that Peyton Manning fellow doesn't hurt him though.
Fisher 6-5, Del Rio 8-3.
Either way, who cares? Pete Carroll didn't win shite in the NFL and look how hes done at USC.
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I don't get the attraction. He has no college experience. He is not the Golden Boy of the NFL. So he has Louisiana ties? I really think we can do better.
With who?
The guy has a stellar resume, has the great personality for a LSU coach, and apparently wants to be here
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:57 pm to Macavity92
look I don't think jdr is coming, but anyone who thinks this would be a bad hire is an idiot
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:58 pm to BilJ
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look I don't think jdr is coming, but anyone who thinks this would be a bad hire is an idiot
Same here, if we actually get him I'd crap my pants.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 4:59 pm to TheEdge
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Either way, who cares? Pete Carroll didn't win shite in the NFL and look how hes done at USC.
Success as an NFL coach does not always translate to success as a college coach.
For the 100th time:
What is it about the LSU coaching job that would compel JDR to quit his perfectly good NFL job to come here?
(provide sources)
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:01 pm to DrEdgeLSU
I'm getting my edges confused here. One is retarded the other isn't
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:01 pm to TheEdge
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The guy has a stellar resume, has the great personality for a LSU coach, and apparently wants to be here
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A stellar NFL resume. One thing Carroll didn't have and many people think his success at USC reflects the fact that he was better suited to the college game.
Carroll is the only career NFL coach I can think of who made a successful move to the college ranks (in fact, coaches making the jump either way have really struggled in recent years). I may be missing some NFL coaches but it is a different style of coaching, the jobs have different demands and there is nothing in his NFL resume that says he can recruit or properly manage a college team.
The guy has a stellar resume, has the great personality for a LSU coach, and apparently wants to be here
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A stellar NFL resume. One thing Carroll didn't have and many people think his success at USC reflects the fact that he was better suited to the college game.
Carroll is the only career NFL coach I can think of who made a successful move to the college ranks (in fact, coaches making the jump either way have really struggled in recent years). I may be missing some NFL coaches but it is a different style of coaching, the jobs have different demands and there is nothing in his NFL resume that says he can recruit or properly manage a college team.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:01 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Success as an NFL coach does not always translate to success as a college coach.
Exactly, thanks for proving my point.
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What is it about the LSU coaching job that would compel JDR to quit his perfectly good NFL job to come here?
He came for an interview once, while his team was in the playoffs. I'm not going to try to say this makes him 100% certain of being interested, but it means he has some interest in being at LSU.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:02 pm to DrEdgeLSU
So what is your complaint? He'll suck as a college coach or he'll never come here?
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:02 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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What about the LSU coaching position holds an attraction to Jack Del Rio that would be a compelling reason to leave where he is? It would be nice if your answers had sources to back them up.
DrEdgeLSU-
Disclaimer...I have no "inside info", have never met JDR, or even met anyone who has ever spoken to JDR (to my knowledge).
That being said....
Word is JDR, for whatever reason (I'm not his shrink)..holds the LSU job in "very" high regard and views it as the one job he would leave Jacksonville for.
There is some "credible" reasons to believe this...
he showed interest last time before Miles was hired (I don't think he actually ever interviewed, some miscommunication or something?)
Bobby Hebert on WWL last night, who played with JDR when he was with the Saints (may have also roomed with him???) said that he definitely thought JDR would be interested.
House in N.O., Wife from Lafayette area, daughter at LSU, etc. etc.
Coaching moves are not always logical...like any job change, they are also done for emotional reasons....Ask Les!
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:03 pm to Macavity92
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Carroll is the only career NFL coach I can think of who made a successful move to the college ranks (in fact, coaches making the jump either way have really struggled in recent years). I may be missing some NFL coaches but it is a different style of coaching, the jobs have different demands and there is nothing in his NFL resume that says he can recruit or properly manage a college team.
I will say this again a dead monkey could recruit with JDR's resume.
He coached on the best NFL defense ever(possibly), he turned the second worse D in the NFL into the second best in one year. HE has taken his teams to the playoffs.
He has a similar attitude/relationship with his players that Pete Carroll does.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:04 pm to BilJ
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I'm getting my edges confused here. One is retarded the other isn't
We need to do a thunderdome to decide who gets rights to Edge.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:05 pm to TheEdge
i want to be an officer of this bandwagon
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:05 pm to TheEdge
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I will say this again a dead monkey could recruit with JDR's resume.
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Arnsparger had a damned good resume and one that went much further back than Del Rio's, yet our recruiting suffered while he was here.
ETA: What makes his resume so much better than NS, Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Steve Spurrier, Bob Stoops or the other coaches that he will be recruiting against?
I will say this again a dead monkey could recruit with JDR's resume.
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Arnsparger had a damned good resume and one that went much further back than Del Rio's, yet our recruiting suffered while he was here.
ETA: What makes his resume so much better than NS, Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Steve Spurrier, Bob Stoops or the other coaches that he will be recruiting against?
This post was edited on 11/29/07 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:05 pm to TheEdge
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He came for an interview once, while his team was in the playoffs.
i don't think he ever interviewed here
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:07 pm to tygerfan70118
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i don't think he ever interviewed here
Correct. Read what I wrote again then think about the difference.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:08 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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What is it about the LSU coaching job that would compel JDR to quit his perfectly good NFL job to come here?
This is from a thread on SaintsReport.com so take it with a grain of salt, but here are a few relevant quotes from that thread
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Well I checked out the Jaguars message board, and they were talking about this rumor. Several of them didn't seem too surprised, and mentioned how Del Rio has had plenty of conflicts with the Jags front office and ownership. He wants more say in roster moves and drafting than he's getting. A lot of the Jag fans are siding with Del Rio and want their GM fired.
I heard that Mike Detilier said something about how Del Rio hasn't been offered an extension, and his current contract only goes through 2008, which would make him a lame-duck coach next season.
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How bout the widely known rumor that he was going to be fired this year if his team didn't make the playoffs? How bout the fact his team has been one of the best in the NFL over the last three years & hardly anyone takes notice of it. Being the coach of the Jags is like being the coach of the Saints while the 49ers went to all those Superbowls. Before he goes down in football history, as one of those coaches who couldn't win the big one he wants to be in a place that gets all the nedia, hype & recruits. He wants to be able to call his own shots, which he will never be able to do in the pros. And if you don't think LSU has gotten more press, publicity, & recognition, even if it was for non-achieving you're dead wrong. How many times has Jacksonville been on national TV this year & how many times has LSU?
He also reportedly fired his agent for screwing up his chance to be LSU's HC last time. He ended up getting a raise out of that, so if he had just be leveraging LSU I'd think he wouldn't have fired his agent.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:08 pm to Macavity92
please use the quote button. Thanks.
Posted on 11/29/07 at 5:08 pm to Moots
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Moots
Thanks Moots. Instead of the insults, I get a real, thought-out answer.
I realize showing interest is different than seeking -- is he asking his agent to contact LSU or is he being contacted. That is a big question for me.
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