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Chris Ash should be the next man up once Texas makes their hire
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:10 pm
Article from when he joined Texas on his scheme. Runs a base 4-2-5
Would be less exciting than prior candidates, but better than most of the others mentioned.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:15 pm to Lou Pai
Was just about to post this relevant info:
Wisconsin-
- 4th fewest passing yards,13th in scoring, 15th total
Ohio-
- 19th (from 46) in total, 26th in scoring, 13th in pass efficiency and 28th in pass def
(24 int., 5th in turnovers (33) and 16th in 3rd down conv.
Second year
- 2nd nationally in scoring, 9th total, 16th in passing def, and 22nd in rushing
Someone post Texas stats...however I think he is a slam dunk hire if Freeman doesn’t come. I don’t want retreads like Mason and Muschamp. He’s a proven commodity
Wisconsin-
- 4th fewest passing yards,13th in scoring, 15th total
Ohio-
- 19th (from 46) in total, 26th in scoring, 13th in pass efficiency and 28th in pass def
(24 int., 5th in turnovers (33) and 16th in 3rd down conv.
Second year
- 2nd nationally in scoring, 9th total, 16th in passing def, and 22nd in rushing
Someone post Texas stats...however I think he is a slam dunk hire if Freeman doesn’t come. I don’t want retreads like Mason and Muschamp. He’s a proven commodity
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:20 pm to Lou Pai
I'd be nervous with anybody associated with that soft program in Austin coming this way.
I know Ash was only at UT a year but I'm also referring to the post about the Ut offensive coordinator.
I didn't see much from Ut that suggest any of those coaches should be in the running at LSU.
I know Ash was only at UT a year but I'm also referring to the post about the Ut offensive coordinator.
I didn't see much from Ut that suggest any of those coaches should be in the running at LSU.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:21 pm to BayouBengal21
Why is Muschamp a retread and Ash isn’t?
He was fired as head coach of Rutgers barely a year ago.
LSU hiring Mason or Muschamp would be just like Texas hiring Ash last year.
He was fired as head coach of Rutgers barely a year ago.
LSU hiring Mason or Muschamp would be just like Texas hiring Ash last year.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Why is Muschamp a retread and Ash isn’t?
Because Ash has been a successful DC within the last 10 years. When's the last time Muschamp had success as a DC? Texas in 2009 or 2010?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:39 pm to Lou Pai
Texas is the program where promising careers go to die. Once you get fired from there which it will happen at some point it's like getting chewed up and spit out. The rest of your career goes to shite afterwards. Pass.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:46 pm to whitefoot
The only difference in Ash and Muschamp is that Muschamp was a much better head coach, and thus not a DC for a longer period of time.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:47 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Ash was only a HC for three years. I don't think he was that far removed from relevance. Texas friend of mine said they liked him so far.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 12:48 pm to Lou Pai
Posted on 1/2/21 at 1:02 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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The only difference in Ash and Muschamp is that Muschamp was a much better head coach, and thus not a DC for a longer period of time.
I guess we just have completely different definitions of retread. Muschamp has failed miserably at his last two HC gigs, was a mediocre DC with Auburn, and hasn't been a successful DC in over a decade.
Ash failed miserably at his first shot as a HC at a school where it seems only Greg Schiano can have any semblance of success and has been a successful DC in the last 5 years. And his defense this year wasn't bad. They finished middle of the pack but improved greatly as the season progressed.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 1:28 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The difference is that Ash was actually a recent DC in a modern day offensive system. Guys like mason and muschamp have not called defensive plays for some years now. Akin to a Pelini
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:01 pm to Lou Pai
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I don't know much about him but their defense did look a little saltier this year by soft Texas standards.
Ash is a damn good coach - there was noticeable improvement on a game by game basis this year. And that's without a spring either.
ETA - there's also a decent chance Sark would retain Ash.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:03 pm to Lou Pai
I would take Chris Ash. I don’t think he’d want to work for Orgeron though.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:05 pm to deaux
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I would take Chris Ash. I don’t think he’d want to work for Orgeron though
Based on what?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:09 pm to OrangeBlood
Also going from a 3-4 to 4-2-5. Seems like the main blemish was OU game.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 2:50 pm to BayouBengal21
Ash did poorly his first stop in the SEC. Was Arkansas DC in 2013, was let go after they went winless in the SEC.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 3:01 pm to Lou Pai
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Also going from a 3-4 to 4-2-5. Seems like the main blemish was OU game.
I would argue that the main blemish was the TCU game. No business losing it. Specifically, allowing the TCU QB to run a draw up the middle for a 32 yard winning TD when it was clear from alignment that the QB draw was wide open (and TCU had done that a couple times already).
The score of the OU game looks worse (giving up 53 points) than the defense indicates due to the OTs, but obviously not happy about that either. That was the 3rd or 4th game I think so (again with no spring ball) it was still a work in progress.
I would say late in the season, giving up 31 to a KSU team with a (bad) backup QB was also not great. But it was a bit of a shootout. We gave up far too many rushing yards considering the KSU QB couldn't complete any pass longer than 15 yards.
The tackling was much better this year.
We weren't running a 3-4 under Todd Orlando. Basically a base 3-3-5. Two biggest issues were Orlando's answer to everything is zero blitz (see 3rd and 17 TD for LSU in 2019) and by alignment with our ends, we were giving up the edge and expecting our OLB and nickel to: 1) set the edge and take on pulling OL; 2) guard slot receivers; and 3) be able to cover the short wide zone. Kinda impossible for the LB and very difficult for the nickel.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 5:32 pm to Lou Pai
Chris Ash is asshoe. He looks ok when he has amazing talent but anytime he doesn't completely outclass his opponent he does poorly.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 5:22 pm to Lou Pai
Welp
Time to call up Ash, although it sounds like Sark may keep him
Time to call up Ash, although it sounds like Sark may keep him
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