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re: Chavis getting a raise for not going to Georgia
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:28 pm to Maximus
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:28 pm to Maximus
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Maximus
You really are a dumbass aren't you! You just cannot help yourself.
(and by the way, I'm not a Les Miles homer. I'm just tired of seeing your drivel and bullshite posted at every turn!)
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:30 pm to 31TIGERS
lol a raise to the mountains 
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:31 pm to RummelTiger
quote:
Like who, then?
Kirby Smart?
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:34 pm to SOCAL TIGER
If Smart turns down UGA (his alma mater), why would he come to LSU?
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:42 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:I highly doubt this applies to Chavis. The man was loyal to UT!
Because about 98% of them aren't worth even half of what they are paid, their salaries are already exorbitant as compared to the average VP or CEO of a company, and alot of them are slimeballs and use extortion tactics to get more money out of the universities with no loyalty whatsoever in return.
1989-1994 Tennessee (Asst.)
1995-2008 Tennessee (DC)
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:49 pm to Maximus
I think they did this to make sure that his contact is impossible to buy.
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:08 pm to just me
Chavis is a great DC, and it will be out loss if he leaves. All of you who disagree obviously didn't watch the enormous improvement this year, and a defense that kept us in many games as the offense sputtered. Big, Big loss if he leaves.
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:15 pm to 7 Moves
Hes not a great DC. Hes a solid, safe DC. I wouldn't mind keeping him but if hes demanding too much...for 600k, I'm sure LSU can find a equal hire or better...
That is not exactly cheap pay even for a DC in CFB...which probably doesn't even include bowl bonuses and recruiting bonuses...
Only thing I'll for sure miss from him is his LB coaching. Something LSU has lacked for I don't how long. Our LBs were probably the biggest improved part of our team this year. KS went from a below average LB to a good LB. Coleman also improved from trying to decapitate everyone he went to tackle and whiff...
That is not exactly cheap pay even for a DC in CFB...which probably doesn't even include bowl bonuses and recruiting bonuses...
Only thing I'll for sure miss from him is his LB coaching. Something LSU has lacked for I don't how long. Our LBs were probably the biggest improved part of our team this year. KS went from a below average LB to a good LB. Coleman also improved from trying to decapitate everyone he went to tackle and whiff...
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:29 pm to deuce985
Pretty much everything deuce985 said.
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:43 pm to 7 Moves
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a defense that kept us in many games as the offense sputtered.
Yea, and this "great" defense managed their time so well that our offense was lucky to get 50 plays in per game because the "great" defense could not get off the field. 3rd and Chavis.
He is good, but not great. As for me, no raise. If he can get more than 500k, I tell him to go for it. He ain't that great.
All this praise about him turning us around from the 2008 co dc debacle...hey, if you are at the bottom, the only way to go is up. That's why we hired him. To coach up.
Me, I hope he goes to Georgia.
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:46 pm to mrbayoublu
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Yea, and this "great" defense managed their time so well that our offense was lucky to get 50 plays in per game because the "great" defense could not get off the field. 3rd and Chavis.
Yeah, because the offense sure took advantage of their chances by having a ton of extended drives? If only the damn defense would get off the field so our ball control offense could have established itself better!
There probably aren't enough hands in Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night to count the number of drives we had this year that went 3 and out.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 2:31 am to OBUDan
OBUDan, Chavis is an above average coordinator. Our defense lacked two things last season:
1) Organization/Lack of Confusion
2) Horrible DB play/personnel choices
We actually were better at stopping the run last year. Actually got sacks, and while we gave up lots of points, we gave up 16 pg this year and about 20 (when yuo take out pick 6's) last year and even less if you take out the number of picks thrown brought back inside our 20.
Having a structured and organized defense is important, but being horrible at 3rd down defense (44th this year as opposed to 12th last year under the 2-headed moron). Doesn't sound that great to me.
Our defense gave up the big play last year. This year we gave up fewer big plays but also sacrificed HEAVILY our offensive opportunities for that.
1) Organization/Lack of Confusion
2) Horrible DB play/personnel choices
We actually were better at stopping the run last year. Actually got sacks, and while we gave up lots of points, we gave up 16 pg this year and about 20 (when yuo take out pick 6's) last year and even less if you take out the number of picks thrown brought back inside our 20.
Having a structured and organized defense is important, but being horrible at 3rd down defense (44th this year as opposed to 12th last year under the 2-headed moron). Doesn't sound that great to me.
Our defense gave up the big play last year. This year we gave up fewer big plays but also sacrificed HEAVILY our offensive opportunities for that.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 3:10 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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and alot of them are slimeballs and use extortion tactics to get more money
Extortion?
It's called leveraging a pay raise. Welcome to the real world. Or should I say the adult world?
Posted on 12/31/09 at 7:15 am to OldManRiver
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This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 7:19 am
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:24 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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Extortion?
quote:You say tomatoes, I say tomotoes. It's extortion if you don't deserve it.
It's called leveraging a pay raise
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:26 am to ezride25
quote:
giving everyone so much money they are no longer incentivized to do their best job.
quote:Well played.
Jamarcus Russell
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:49 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Extortion? It's not extortion to tell your employer you have another offer and can they match it. Because your employer can pretty easily say "no". If he's not worth it, let him walk. Obviously, LSU thinks he is worth it, and doesn't share your opinion of his work.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:27 am to Baloo
quote:I think his work is fine, it just doesn't rise to the level of kissing his arse and paying him $600K. It just isn't kosher to threaten to leave your employer after only one year, with a slightly above average performance and the threat of getting more money from a competitor- all the while getting paid more than what you are legitimately worth and more than what others at your position are currently being paid. That amounts to professional extortion, in my mind. Obviously I don't mean extortion in the criminal sense of the word.
and doesn't share your opinion of his work.
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/31/09 at 11:09 am to 31TIGERS
Just think how good the defensive stats would have been if LSU's offense would have been in the top two instead of the bottom two of the SEC stat rankings.
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 11:12 am
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