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re: Chavis getting a raise for not going to Georgia

Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Maximus

You really are a dumbass aren't you! You just cannot help yourself.

(and by the way, I'm not a Les Miles homer. I'm just tired of seeing your drivel and bullshite posted at every turn!)
Posted by tigermike200444
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
9106 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:30 pm to
lol a raise to the mountains
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
11527 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Like who, then?


Kirby Smart?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56723 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:34 pm to
If Smart turns down UGA (his alma mater), why would he come to LSU?
Posted by That LSU Guy
The boys are back in town.
Member since Jul 2008
16110 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:42 pm to
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Because about 98% of them aren't worth even half of what they are paid, their salaries are already exorbitant as compared to the average VP or CEO of a company, and alot of them are slimeballs and use extortion tactics to get more money out of the universities with no loyalty whatsoever in return.
I highly doubt this applies to Chavis. The man was loyal to UT!

1989-1994 Tennessee (Asst.)
1995-2008 Tennessee (DC)
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:44 pm to
like?
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:49 pm to
I think they did this to make sure that his contact is impossible to buy.
Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:08 pm to
Chavis is a great DC, and it will be out loss if he leaves. All of you who disagree obviously didn't watch the enormous improvement this year, and a defense that kept us in many games as the offense sputtered. Big, Big loss if he leaves.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:15 pm to
Hes not a great DC. Hes a solid, safe DC. I wouldn't mind keeping him but if hes demanding too much...for 600k, I'm sure LSU can find a equal hire or better...

That is not exactly cheap pay even for a DC in CFB...which probably doesn't even include bowl bonuses and recruiting bonuses...

Only thing I'll for sure miss from him is his LB coaching. Something LSU has lacked for I don't how long. Our LBs were probably the biggest improved part of our team this year. KS went from a below average LB to a good LB. Coleman also improved from trying to decapitate everyone he went to tackle and whiff...
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 9:16 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
48738 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 9:29 pm to
Pretty much everything deuce985 said.
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2962 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:43 pm to
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a defense that kept us in many games as the offense sputtered.


Yea, and this "great" defense managed their time so well that our offense was lucky to get 50 plays in per game because the "great" defense could not get off the field. 3rd and Chavis.

He is good, but not great. As for me, no raise. If he can get more than 500k, I tell him to go for it. He ain't that great.

All this praise about him turning us around from the 2008 co dc debacle...hey, if you are at the bottom, the only way to go is up. That's why we hired him. To coach up.

Me, I hope he goes to Georgia.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 11:46 pm to
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Yea, and this "great" defense managed their time so well that our offense was lucky to get 50 plays in per game because the "great" defense could not get off the field. 3rd and Chavis.



Yeah, because the offense sure took advantage of their chances by having a ton of extended drives? If only the damn defense would get off the field so our ball control offense could have established itself better!

There probably aren't enough hands in Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night to count the number of drives we had this year that went 3 and out.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 2:31 am to
OBUDan, Chavis is an above average coordinator. Our defense lacked two things last season:

1) Organization/Lack of Confusion

2) Horrible DB play/personnel choices

We actually were better at stopping the run last year. Actually got sacks, and while we gave up lots of points, we gave up 16 pg this year and about 20 (when yuo take out pick 6's) last year and even less if you take out the number of picks thrown brought back inside our 20.

Having a structured and organized defense is important, but being horrible at 3rd down defense (44th this year as opposed to 12th last year under the 2-headed moron). Doesn't sound that great to me.

Our defense gave up the big play last year. This year we gave up fewer big plays but also sacrificed HEAVILY our offensive opportunities for that.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22212 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 3:10 am to
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and alot of them are slimeballs and use extortion tactics to get more money


Extortion?

It's called leveraging a pay raise. Welcome to the real world. Or should I say the adult world?
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 7:15 am to
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This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 7:19 am
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33373 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:24 am to
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Extortion?
quote:

It's called leveraging a pay raise
You say tomatoes, I say tomotoes. It's extortion if you don't deserve it.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33373 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:26 am to
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giving everyone so much money they are no longer incentivized to do their best job.
quote:

Jamarcus Russell
Well played.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 9:49 am to
Extortion? It's not extortion to tell your employer you have another offer and can they match it. Because your employer can pretty easily say "no". If he's not worth it, let him walk. Obviously, LSU thinks he is worth it, and doesn't share your opinion of his work.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33373 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 10:27 am to
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and doesn't share your opinion of his work.
I think his work is fine, it just doesn't rise to the level of kissing his arse and paying him $600K. It just isn't kosher to threaten to leave your employer after only one year, with a slightly above average performance and the threat of getting more money from a competitor- all the while getting paid more than what you are legitimately worth and more than what others at your position are currently being paid. That amounts to professional extortion, in my mind. Obviously I don't mean extortion in the criminal sense of the word.
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Utah Tiger
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
1152 posts
Posted on 12/31/09 at 11:09 am to
Just think how good the defensive stats would have been if LSU's offense would have been in the top two instead of the bottom two of the SEC stat rankings.
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 11:12 am
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