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re: Breiden Fehoko on Kelvin Sheppard
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:51 pm to Folsom
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:51 pm to Folsom
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no head coach experience”
Neither did Kirby Smart at Georgia have any.
He was a top dc in the sec and in the meetings with Saban. He saw how he ran a college program.
I actually like Kelvin Sheppard but I don't think you can hire him as your head coach. I would have to know his plan for who he would hire and hear him outline everything to feel comfortable if I were the ad.
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:53 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Lsu is not on the brink of irrelevancy.
If Sheppard comes in and goes .500 or less for 3-4 years, yeah, LSU will slide back in recruiting and lose status as one of the top teams in the SEC
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:53 pm to TexasTiger_08
While I don't think we need a dinosaur, he has only been in coaching period for 4 years
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:02 pm to BhamTigah
Ask Saban
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:17 pm to KiwiHead
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You made my point.
No I didn't. you don't just hire a guy to be a head coach with less than 5 years of coaching experience at any level.
This notion of "well every hire hasn't worked out for everyone else" doesn't mean you just throw all logic out the window and piss in the wind on your next hire.
So I'll ask you again, has any program anywhere hired a coach with viirtually no coaching experience at any level to be their head coach. And if so, how did that coach perform. This isn't where you tell me LSU hired Brian Kely and it didn't work. This is where you actually answer the question that's actually being asked. Do you have a baseline for thinking experience does not matter. That doesn't mean head coaching experience specifically. It means experience, of any kind, as a football coach.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:35 pm to lsufball19
I'm not knighting for Shepherd.
Ole Miss hired Freeze back in the day and he had probably 2 years of head coach experience. He formerly was a head coach on the high school level at a smallMenphis area high school. The only reason he got fired was because he was hooking players up with prostitutes out of Tampa. But he could recruit. So yeah, there are examples out there .
I just think that trying to get an established head coach from a bigger problem is a fool's errand for LSU given the environment. An assistant would be fine and an easier get......and less expensive.
You try to hire a big name and you'll be doing this search in 2030 or 2031again.
Ole Miss hired Freeze back in the day and he had probably 2 years of head coach experience. He formerly was a head coach on the high school level at a smallMenphis area high school. The only reason he got fired was because he was hooking players up with prostitutes out of Tampa. But he could recruit. So yeah, there are examples out there .
I just think that trying to get an established head coach from a bigger problem is a fool's errand for LSU given the environment. An assistant would be fine and an easier get......and less expensive.
You try to hire a big name and you'll be doing this search in 2030 or 2031again.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:41 pm to KiwiHead
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Ole Miss hired Freeze back in the day and he had probably 2 years of head coach experience
Hugh Freeze had been a football coach since the early 90s. He had been a head coach at two different colleges and also an assistant at Ole Miss and Ark St before getting the Ole Miss job in 2012.
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The only reason he got fired was because he was hooking players up with prostitutes out of Tampa. But he could recruit. So yeah, there are examples out there .
That's a really bad example. Freeze had been coaching at the college level for 6 years with 3 years as a head coach and another as an OC. He had been successful at every stop. And he had another 12 years of coaching experience elsewhere. Why he got fired is irrelevant. He had relevant experience to be hired by Ole Miss when he was hired.
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I just think that trying to get an established head coach from a bigger problem is a fool's errand for LSU given the environment. An assistant would be fine and an easier get......and less expensive.
But hiring an assistant who also has virtually no experience is and should be a non-starter
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:49 pm to lsufball19
Then go find a Freeze, I'm happy with that
Get value for your money. But don't throw money out there just to do it because you like Woodward want a trophy hire that starts to stink up the place after 3 years.
Get value for your money. But don't throw money out there just to do it because you like Woodward want a trophy hire that starts to stink up the place after 3 years.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:10 pm to TexasTiger_08
I do think it's a risk without having head coach experience.
But our last title winning team did have players on it that Les recruited and coaches that Les hired.
Kelvin has the Les ties too.
But our last title winning team did have players on it that Les recruited and coaches that Les hired.
Kelvin has the Les ties too.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:11 pm to Chalkywhite84
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I would have to know his plan for who he would hire and hear him outline everything to feel comfortable if I were the ad.
Umm, id hope they do this with every candidate.
Wtf?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:13 pm to Shotgun Willie
quote:gotta start somewhere. If he brings some culture that the Lions have under Campbell I’ll take it.
No head coach experience
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:44 pm to St Augustine
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Soooo “one of us?”
Worked last time. Until it didnt.
But 2019 was worth it.
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