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re: An different perspective on the O front

Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:11 am to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:11 am to
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Almost agree with this sentiment, but I think if you don't pull the trigger on a Fisher or Herman hire now, that window closes, and you really can't pass that up.


this suits me exactly. i'm on the fence. i'm 66 yrs old and an LSU grad
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:18 am to
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The boosters remember he had been on the job for 4 games and had a TE's coach, who had also been on the job 4 games, running the offense. They know there is no coach in the country that could be on the job 4 weeks with a TE's coach running the offense that could beat Alabama in week 11 of the season.


That is true. But the bottom line still reads 0 points and 125 yards. Just like he can't change his past with Ole Miss but it will be held against him and something he must always answer for. Admittedly, it ain't fair to him. But you know what? Life ain't fair in the big time.
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2969 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:46 am to
43, attended LSU 90-92, military, haven't been to a game since PSU Cap 1 bowl.

It is not that I'm for O as much as I don't get the desire for Fisher or Herman. Both of those guys are in a weaker conferences, have their own coordinators, their systems, their players, yet all ranked behind us in all 3 polls.

If we win out as I think we will, we will only out pace them and be in a better bowl position.

A head coaches job is to be the coordinator of coordinators (OC, DC, RC, STC) and make it all work. All CEO has done is take CLM system and remove the sand and replace it with teflon. It is not perfect, but it is not entirely his system, his players, etc. Yet it is working very well.

There is excitement at every game.

We are competitive in every game.

Did you realize that the Southern Miss game had a bigger turn out than the MSU conference game under CLM.

We have won every game but 1 under CEO and in the one loss, we were competitive. That is the one team that has better personnel than we do in the trenches, yet the outcome of that game wasn't determined until 50 minutes into the game (with the more probable NC), what more do you want.

Fisher got his arse waxed this year by 43 points to Louisville (his team gave up). I also consider the talent between LSU and FSU on par with each other.

Houston does not have the personnel that we do, so MAYBE Herman with our talent could do better, but he has not proven it yet either and I doubt that Herman can recruit Louisiana as well as CEO.

So this will be a risk no matter which way we go, but I think that CEO has just as much chance as anybody else.

He knows that he needs a better OC and QB coach and better trench recruiting.
Posted by sheek
Lake Chuck
Member since Sep 2007
44150 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:03 pm to
Well I am from the Cajun country, but live in Austin. All my lsu alum friends want fisher. All the guys i grew up want O. We all wanted Les gone. But all my south of I-10 friends back home cannot stand fisher. They say he sucks, cannot win the ACC. It's like arguing with a bunch of nats. 39 and pro Jimbo.
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22135 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:06 pm to
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He argument is that Coach O has made him enjoy being in the stadium more than he's enjoyed it in 20 years. Even during Miles hay-day.



Recency bias
Posted by beef42
Thy
Member since Feb 2009
826 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:13 pm to
Mark my words,Lane KIffen will be the OC next year with o being the head man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bank it from a very reliable source
Posted by sheek
Lake Chuck
Member since Sep 2007
44150 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:18 pm to
Reliable source? Chad Blouin? Did that clown make the same assertion?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56714 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:22 pm to
The older generation seems to have lower expectations and tends to be more defeatist when it comes to the outlook of the program. It's why many of them fawned over Miles until the very end.

Their petrified brains can't comprehend that the landscape of college football has changed dramatically since 20, 30, or 40 years ago. They refuse to believe LSU is a blue blood program now, and programs like Nebraska really aren't anymore.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
22119 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:26 pm to
I'm 47 and I have some high expectations. Jimbo >>>> Eaux.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:31 pm to
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I'm finding myself curious about the demographics of those who are Coach O supporters.


You see the silence of O supporters on here. I think that tells you all you need to know. Hell, even the ones who support him posting here have yet to answer your question about age. Why? Because they know you are right. I have suspected this, myself, all along. Thanks for posting.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 12:32 pm to
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