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The Three Body Problem or Red Rising for Next Book

Posted on 12/3/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 3:16 pm
Finishing up The Brothers Karamazov and looking to go back to sci-fi/fantasy. I’ve heard great things about both these trilogies. Anyone have any personal experience?
Posted by HeavyCore
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:23 pm to
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Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:23 am to
Red Rising is a good fun read. Definitely something that will keep you turning the pages. It's not a flawless trilogy by any means. Don't go in expecting Dostoyevsky. I wouldn't even call it substantial sci-fi/fantasy. But if you are looking for some light reading, you should enjoy it.
Posted by BitBuster
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:29 pm to
Red Rising is a fun read.

Three Body Problem is a very difficult read, but very much worth it. It's difficult in the sense that it's a Chinese author, and while the translation is fantastic the thought process can seem a bit "foreign" at times. It's also difficult because there are a lot of concepts that are new to Sci Fi. ie, "Dark Forest Theory", Theoretical Materials science, Radio Astronomy, etc.. TBP is very conceptual.. and is.. absolutely fantastic. I wasn't old enough to experience Arthur C. Clarke's innovative ideas at the time they were written, but reading this gives me an idea of what it was like.

In 20 years, Three Body Problem will be the book everyone remembers, not Red Rising.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 5:50 am to
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Red Rising is a good fun read. Definitely something that will keep you turning the pages. It's not a flawless trilogy by any means. Don't go in expecting Dostoyevsky. I wouldn't even call it substantial sci-fi/fantasy. But if you are looking for some light reading, you should enjoy it.



Agreed. Reading it was interesting, the author has a ton of influences and it felt like he threw them all in a blender and made a book from it. Hunger Games, Lord of the Flies, Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, Spartacus, Dune, ancient mythology, and others. The only things that felt original were the words "bloodydam" and "gumbubble" and their use got to be annoying.

For a light weight page turner it's very good, and that is fine. Think - action popcorn movie.
Posted by Tbonepatron
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:35 am to
I enjoyed Red Rising, but if your the type of person that has to finish a series once you’ve started, like me, I wouldn’t recommend it unless you know what you’re getting into. Read the synopsis for the second and third books cause they are pretty significantly different in scope than Red Rising.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:22 pm to
FWIW I liked golden son and morning star (books 2 and 3 of red rising) more than red rising itself.
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:46 pm to
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FWIW I liked golden son and morning star (books 2 and 3 of red rising) more than red rising itself.


Me too.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:23 am to
The Three-Body Problem all the way. Read both its sequels also. The third entry, Death's End, is one of the best sci-fi books I've read in years.
Posted by BitBuster
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:49 am to
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The Three-Body Problem all the way. Read both its sequels also. The third entry, Death's End, is one of the best sci-fi books I've read in years.


Absolutely, you have to read all three. I really hate telling people to stick with a book, but you really have to stick with these books and just get through them. Some of the concepts that Liu Cixin came up with are simply mind blowing.

I've read a few "hard sci-fi" books - heavy on the technical side - The Martian, Seveneves, etc.. sometimes it can come across as mental masturbation. This is the first "hard sci-fi" series that I felt was truly innovative, and didn't rely on tropes.

Fans of Sci-Fi have to read this series because future authors will be riffing off of this work for years. Solar-Radio Astronomy, Sophons, Dark Forest Theory, Game Theory, Materials Sciences, etc... He really pushed the envelope.



Edit: I really enjoyed "The Martian" FWIW
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 7:52 am
Posted by txbd
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:04 pm to
Long bump since I didnt feel like starting a thread for this.

I just finished the Three Body Problem trilogy. Holy crap that was incredible. My question - has anyone read The Redemption of Time? It's called the "fourth" book but it's not actually written by Cixin Liu. Just wondering if I should spend the time reading it or not.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:18 pm to
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has anyone read The Redemption of Time?


I did. From what I understand, it started out as fan fiction, and Liu loved it so much he allowed it to be published as part of the Three Body Problem universe.

Redemption gets really out there with how it approaches multiple dimensions. Its definitely worth reading if you enjoyed the original trilogy, just don't expect the same writing style as the originals.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted by bayoumuscle21
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:20 am to
I love Red Rising! That and the First Law are some great fantasy books.

Brown becomes a better author throughout the books imo, but the plot/setting is great.
Posted by horsesandbulls
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 9:17 am to
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he Three-Body Problem all the way. Read both its sequels also.


read the first one. loved it! I had no idea it was a trilogy.

I was so confused with what the some of the opening scenes had to do with the story until very end. Without getting into spoilers, i really loved the way the first one ended.

Adding the next ones to my list.

Posted by Crisprdestroyer
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:45 pm to
Dark forest may be my favorite sci fi book. But I really enjoyed red rising also. You have a lot of good reading ahead of you no matter the choice.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/17/22 at 7:19 pm to
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The Three-Body Problem all the way.


Agreed. 5 years ago in this thread I wrote about Red Rising:

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For a light weight page turner it's very good, and that is fine.


And I decided not to go any further, there are more interesting things to read. I finally got around to Three Body and am early into Death's End. I'm very impressed. It's the best fairly recent sci-fi I've read in a long time. I like the hard science (same reason I like Neal Stephenson) and the author takes it to interesting and unexpected places. It's not perfect, there are some things that I consider to be fairly large plot holes and sometimes the twist in the book has been obvious for a while. But overall it's still very good and thought provoking, and having the perspective of a Chinese author is interesting.
Posted by lsugorilla
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Posted on 12/19/22 at 11:36 pm to
Red rising is a good read . Like a marvel movie-entertaining

Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:52 am to
Is Three Body problem a stand alone book or will it require reading the other 3?
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:13 am to
Three Body is not a standalone, and that is the reason that I avoided it for several years. You will need to read the others, and you will want to. It's very, very good if you like science fiction with an emphasis on the science.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Is Three Body problem a stand alone book or will it require reading the other 3?



Like Tigris said: its a trilogy. You're going to want to read the whole series.

Some people are put off by the Chinese names, but you get used to them soon enough.

I'm honestly surprised the Chinese government let him be so candid about the Cultural Revolution.
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