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Sanderson Update and F Audible

Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:31 pm
For your reading pleasure: State of the Sanderson (if you haven't already looked over it).

This thread's point is from a part of Sanderson's update: his reasoning behind not going with Audible for the audiobooks associated with his kickstarter.

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If you want details, the current industry standard for a digital product is to pay the creator 70% on a sale. It’s what Steam pays your average creator for a game sale, it’s what Amazon pays on ebooks, it’s what Apple pays for apps downloaded. (And they’re getting heat for taking as much as they are. Rightly so.)

Audible pays 40%. Almost half. For a frame of reference, most brick-and-mortar stores take around 50% on a retail product. Audible pays indie authors less than a bookstore does, when a bookstore has storefronts, sales staff, and warehousing to deal with.

I knew things were bad, which is why I wanted to explore other options with the Kickstarter. But I didn’t know HOW bad. Indeed, if indie authors don’t agree to be exclusive to Audible, they get dropped from 40% to a measly 25%. Buying an audiobook through Audible instead of from another site literally costs the author money.


And...

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I had a huge problem finding anyone who, if I sold the Secret Projects to them, wouldn’t just put them on Audible—and while I can’t tell you details, all of their deals are around the same low rates that Audible is paying indie authors. Audible runs this town, and they set the rates. For everyone. Everywhere. (I had one seller who really wanted to work with me, who will remain unnamed, who is consistently only able to pay authors 10% on a sale. For a digital product. It’s WILD.)

I found two companies only—in all of the deals I investigated—who are willing to take on Audible. Spotify and Speechify. My Spotify deal is, unfortunately, locked behind an NDA (as is common with these kinds of deals). All I can say is that they treated me well, and I’m happy.

Here’s where the gold star goes to Speechify. Let me tell you, they came to me and said—full of enthusiasm for the project—they’d give me 100%. I almost took it, but then I asked the owner (who is a great guy) if this was a deal he could give other authors, or if it was a deal only Brandon Sanderson could get. He considered that, then said he’d be willing to do industry standard—70%—for any author who lists their books directly on Speechify a la carte.


This is the kind of decision that sets true lovers of the genre apart.

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So I told him I wanted that deal, if he agreed to let me make the terms of our deal public.

I’ve made enough on this Kickstarter. I don’t need to squeeze people for every penny—but what I do want to do is find a way to provide options for authors. I think that by agreeing to these two deals, I’m doing that. We have the open offer from Speechify, and we have Spotify trying very hard to break Audible’s near-monopoly.

I hope this will rejuvenate the industry. Because I do like Audible. I worry that they’ll stagnate, strangle their creators, and end up burning away because of it. Real competition is good for everyone, including the companies themselves. Lack of it leads to a slow corporate death.

So I’m not putting these books on Audible. Not for a year at least. Maybe longer. I need to be able to make a statement, and I realize this makes it inconvenient for many of you. I’m sorry. I really am. And I know it’s going to cost me a ton of sales—because right now, people tend to just buy on the platform they’re comfortable with. The Lost Metal preorders were 75% audio—almost all through Audible. I know many of my fans, probably hundreds of thousands of them, simply won’t buy the books because it’s super inconvenient to go somewhere else. Indeed, Audible locks you into that mentality by making you sign up for a subscription to get proper prices on audiobooks, which then makes you even more hesitant to shop around.

But please take the time to try these books somewhere else. I’ve priced them at $15—the current price of a monthly subscription to Audible at their most common price point. You can get these books with no subscription and no credit. (Though you do have to buy on Spotify/Speechify’s websites—and not through their apps—because of monopolistic practices by certain providers. Something I’m not qualified to say much about currently. Besides, this rant is already too long.)

Each book you buy somewhere else helps break open this field. It will lead to lower prices, fewer subscription models, and better pay for authors. Plus, these partners I’ve gone to really deserve the support for being willing to try to change things.


How often do you find a creator who says "I've made enough money so I'm going to use my success as a way to make things better for others in this field"?

Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:29 pm to
That's awesome. I'm looking into speechify now to learn more of their service. I may buy stuff from them that I can't get through my library (Libby)
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:25 pm to
Brandon Sanderson is my hero.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:12 am to
I may check out Speechify, but Audible is also stupid easy to use.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 3:14 pm to
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I may check out Speechify, but Audible is also stupid easy to use.



That’s my problem. I listen to a ton of audiobooks but I haven’t found anything as convenient and easy as audible.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:05 am to
I use Apple’s app for audiobooks without any issues. I don’t have a subscription, just buy what I want.
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:01 am to
It's admirable that he's pushing for a better space for creators in audiobook world. I do wish he would have said this during the backing campaign though.

And that nothing in the campaign would be time-limited or exclusive.
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