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re: Is Stephen king a bad author?

Posted on 10/21/22 at 7:26 am to
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 7:26 am to
I don't care for his books that I've tried to read.
Posted by isgurverda
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 10:07 am to
I believe that this is a writer, the attitude towards which everyone is divided 50/50
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 11:45 am to
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As someone who listens to a lot of audiobooks, the narrator has a lot to do with this.


Absolutely true

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Couldn't get into Dark Tower because Gunslingers narrator was terrible


I wouldn’t go that far, but having completed my first trip to the Tower this year I strongly encourage people to read through at least the second book in the series to get a true feel. The Gunslinger was originally a series of stories which is why it’s a bit disjointed. It’s necessary to understand some important dynamics, but admittedly is much better once you have the context of the rest of the books.

The series really finds it’s footing in Drawing of the Three and is a wild ride from there. What LOTR was to me as a kid, and HP as an adolescent, Dark Tower is as an adult - I loved it that much after being originally disappointed by the Gunslinger.

For audiobook listeners, the narrator of 2-4 is phenomenal. 5-7 narrator is ok too and I liked the story, but Frank Muller really captures the characters in 2-4 perfectly.

To answer OP, I think with the sheer volume or works King can be hit or miss but he’s definitely one of my favorite storytellers.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 10:01 pm to
To me, King's strengths have always been his ability to set a scene and to give characters depth. I read the unabridged version of The Stand years ago and it still stands out to me as being so well written that if I put it down then went out driving, I couldn't help but feel that seeing other people out driving around normally was odd.

He fails in some of the verbiage and terms he (or his characters use, laws yes) and, as is noted in pretty much every King thread, his endings usually fall flat.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:07 pm to
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My only complaint about It was the ending. I came out with the feeling King got bored with it and didn't know how to end the story properly.


This could be said about most of his books. He knows how to set the table and present a fantastically themed meal and then just seems to shite the bed during dessert.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:40 pm to
The only Stephen King book that I've ever read is The Stand. I enjoyed it and think it is a very good book, but I've just never been tempted to try his other stuff.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21061 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 10:25 pm to
I loved 90% of 11/22/63.

The last ten percent was most disappointing.

Great build up, terrible pay off.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8764 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:20 am to
Not a bad author. Just a leftist wack job.
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 10:48 am to
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:04 am to
I tried to read The Shining several years ago and remember being shocked at how poorly written it seemed. As much as I love to read, I've never understood the popularity of Stephen King.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:48 pm to
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tried to read The Shining several years ago and remember being shocked at how poorly written it seemed.

I get that everyone has different tastes and all that, but I have a hard time understanding how someone comes to this conclusion about the Shining.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1798 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:55 pm to
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I tried to read The Shining several years ago and remember being shocked at how poorly written it seemed.


I guess his millions of fans are just stupid and like books that are poorly written. You should tell them.

Oh, and his bestselling book “On Writing” that’s used to teach aspiring authors to this day should probably be pulled from the market as well.

I’m sure literary critic DaleGribble has also authored some textbooks on writing fiction.

This is the stupidest thread.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:53 pm to
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I get that everyone has different tastes and all that, but I have a hard time understanding how someone comes to this conclusion about the Shining.



I didn't make it through more than one or two chapters. Had also bought a paperback of Lord Of The Rings at the same time and decided to read it for the first time when The Shining wasn't holding my interest. Watching the film was enough for me.

That's the only thing I've ever tried to read by him. Not really interested in horror novels, in general.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:54 pm to
Had no idea that Stephen King posted here. What a drag.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 11:50 am to
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Had no idea that Stephen King posted here. What a drag.

I mean, you are coming off as a bit of a literary snob. If horror isn't your thing, fine. But saying that the Shining is poorly written, and thus implying that we simpletons just don't know good literature, is pretty patronizing. The Shining is, almost objectively, a very well written novel.

Maybe read more than ten pages before posting a hot take on one of the best books of all time.
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 10:31 pm to
I've heard more than one person say that Stephen King's major weaknesses are writing dialogue and character development. Is it okay if I want to agree with them?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11498 posts
Posted on 11/20/22 at 7:26 pm to
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I've heard more than one person say that Stephen King's major weaknesses are writing dialogue and character development. Is it okay if I want to agree with them?

See, I would say those things are his strengths.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6950 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 10:20 am to
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I've heard more than one person say that Stephen King's major weaknesses are writing dialogue and character development. Is it okay if I want to agree with them?

since by your own admission, you have never actually read Stephen King, are you agreeing with them? or just parroting them?

King has many weaknesses. in fact, I havent really liked much of anything of his from the last fifteen years or so, and I have pretty much quit reading him. but his first two+ decades are absolutely some of the best fiction reading out there, and anyone who says that character development, of all things, is a major weakness of his is a moron (in my opinion of course).
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12070 posts
Posted on 11/21/22 at 1:04 pm to
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I guess his millions of fans are just stupid and like books that are poorly written. You should tell them.


Selling a lot of books doesn't make King a good writer. Just like selling a bunch of albums doesn't make Taylor Swift a good singer.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 11/24/22 at 11:12 am to
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since by your own admission, you have never actually read Stephen King, are you agreeing with them? or just parroting them?


I don't care, either way. I just know that I'm not a fan of his work and that his fanboys seem to have a major problem with anyone that doesn't think that he's a good writer.

Are you just parroting the Stephen King fans that ride his dick and read nothing else, except maybe some Dean Koontz and Anne Rice?

It's amazing how defensive his fans can be over this hack. He's quantity over quality and has been since at least the 80s.
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