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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:40 am to
I haven't read this thread in months someone catch me up.
Show is great or show sucks?
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:41 am to
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show sucks
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:43 pm to
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The story is called a Song of Ice and Fire. Ice=stark Fire=Targaryen. Jon is ice and fire. Ifso facto... story is about Jon.



1. Jon isnt a stark.
2. Ice and Fire represents a number of things. Good and Bad. Life and Death.

Going by your motto, Bran should be the Stark. He is by far the most powerful character in the story. He has basically become a God. He's the only person ever to have been able to talk through a tree. The three eyed raven didnt even think that possible, and he's done it as a kid.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:47 pm to
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1. Jon isnt a stark. 


Yes he is.
Posted by i drink the kool aid
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:14 pm to
quote]Going by your motto, Bran should be the Stark. He is by far the most powerful character in the story. He has basically become a God. He's the only person ever to have been able to talk through a tree. The three eyed raven didnt even think that possible, and he's done it as a kid.[/quote]

Is Bran the Lord of Winterfell? Or will he remain North of the wall forever and Rickon will become the heir?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:37 pm to
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1. Jon isnt a stark


He's Stark on his mother's side.

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2. Ice and Fire represents a number of things. Good and Bad. Life and Death.


No, it represents Jon. Because he is ice (Snow) and fire (Targaryen). "...and his is the story of ice and fire."

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Going by your motto, Bran should be the Stark. He is by far the most powerful character in the story. He has basically become a God. He's the only person ever to have been able to talk through a tree. The three eyed raven didnt even think that possible, and he's done it as a kid.


None of this makes any sense.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Is Bran the Lord of Winterfell? Or will he remain North of the wall forever and Rickon will become the heir?


Technically, Jon is the Lord of Winterfell as Robb named him a Stark and gave him the title. But Jon is more than that so I would guess Rickon will be next in line. Bran is way to special to be Warden of the North. Warg of the North maybe, but his path will lead somewhere different. He will likely always remain an outsider like Bloodraven.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Robb named him a Stark and gave him the title


When did this happen?

I recall Robb considering naming Jon his heir until he had a child, but did he ever do anything to make it official?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 3:47 pm to
Letter he sent with Maege Mormont. Catelyn was all pissed off about it of course because it made since.

*Looking into it, Jon was never 100% confirmed to be named in the will. It was heavily implied, but we don't know for sure. (Sounds familiar) Where the Hell are Maege and that Glover she was with? It has been a long time since anyone has seen them.

This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:44 pm to
If you want to be technical he's Stargaryen.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:26 pm to
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If you want to be technical he's Stargaryen


Exactly. To say he's not a stark is pretty stupid.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:28 pm to
Hopefully they're eatimg froglegs at Greywater Watch. They'll be showing up soon, styling those white shrimper boots.

Is Coach O too tall to.play Howland Reed?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 6:25 pm to
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No, it represents Jon. Because he is ice (Snow) and fire (Targaryen). "...and his is the story of ice and fire."



I'm not saying that's not one of the meaning. I say it has multiple meanings because 1. It's mentioned in the book that it can mean life and death and 2. GRRM himself said it has multiple meanings.

I don't think it's outrageous to think that or your stupid to think it only represents Jon. I'm sure I spelled something wrong in this post so I'll go ahead and say I'm stupid before someone else does.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:32 pm to
I think the "song of ice and fire" is going to be represented in 3 characters
i.e. the dragon has 3 heads

Dany (AA), Jon (TPTWP), and someone else
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Book thread. The show doesn't count


Dude, with the years that we have to wait between books, this thread has morphed into an all things Game of Thrones/ASOIAF thread. And with the series possibly passing up the books, the show has become even more relevant.

SO, since we apparently still have lots of time to wait before TWOW, what do y'all think happens next with Jaime and Brienne?
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:37 pm to
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Brienne?


Her storyline is shitty, so hopefully they pick it up like with the show where she fought the hound.

ETA - Also, I really hope she's not the one related to Dunk, but I"m almost positive she will be. Really hoping it's Hodor.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:41 pm to
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Also, I really hope she's not the one related to Dunk,


Why? I really wish they do a tales of Dunk and Egg prequel.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:43 pm to
I agree. There's the whiners who think that the show is Kardashian level of trash because it's not verbatim page by page. I've accepted that the show is going to pass the books and it's not going to prevent me from being a show viewer. Are there changes I wasn't happy about? Yes. Are there changes that I thought were better than the books? Yes. But is it going to deter me from being a fan of both? Hell no.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52282 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:44 pm to
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Are there changes that I thought were better than the books? Yes.


Specifically when Oberyn and Tyrion meet and when he says he'll be his champion. So much better than the book.
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:55 pm to
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Specifically when Oberyn and Tyrion meet and when he says he'll be his champion. So much better than the book.


And the Arya/Tywin scenes in the show instead or the Arya/Roose scenes at Harenhall in the book. A MASSIVE upgrade.
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