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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:01 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:01 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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The show including that little visit with Mel, Thoros, and Beric pretty much confirmed that she will be resurrecting Jon in the upcoming story, at least that's how I see it.
Agreed. I'm rereading ADWD and in her POV it says she's at her most powerful by being at the Wall.
I hope Thoros gets some more pub in the next 2 books too. It seems he was at every big battle with his flaming sword wrecking shite usually for the "good guys." If there is such a thing
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:03 pm to SoGaFan
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Thoros talks about it at one point in the books, but I can't recall which one. He doesn't really find true belief though until he is in the Brothers without Banners. Recall he had to use tricks for his burning sword before.
He was one of the first one over the wall in Greyjoy's rebellion. He was also mentioned beating the Hound a few times in tourney's when he uses Sandor's fear of fire.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:46 pm to TigerintheNO
Something that struck me on the HBO rewatch: After everything Jon did to get in with the Wildlings so he could warn the Nightwatch - killing Halfhand, risking his own life, etc., he almost throws it all away because he didn't want to kill that old man when they went south of the wall.
Kind of clashes with a lot of the gritty, realistic and dark tone of GoT and a lot of other modern historical fiction.
Kind of clashes with a lot of the gritty, realistic and dark tone of GoT and a lot of other modern historical fiction.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:56 pm to Methuselah
Killing Halfhand is different than the old man. Halfhand and Jon knew it was necessary and part of his 'job.' I got in the mood to reread the books today but I'm going to hold off until the season is over I think.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 6:35 pm to putt23
Melisandre's powers come alive at the Wall because the Wall intensifies all magic/powers. The Wall is capable of doing that because there is a huge Ice Dragon inside the Wall
Posted on 4/5/14 at 6:36 pm to Methuselah
That's because Jon struggles internally between his Stark honor and his Targ dark side
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:23 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
quote:I thought the dragon was under Winterfell?
a huge Ice Dragon inside the Wall
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:41 pm to rmc
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Killing Halfhand is different than the old man. Halfhand and Jon knew it was necessary and part of his 'job.
I can see that. And I could understand him hitting the rock with his sword. But in reality in that world and that time period I kind of think he would have gone along with them rather than risk everything he had done to get to that point.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:43 pm to Methuselah
But that's just how Jon is.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:44 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
That's another dragon in the Crypts of Winterfell
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:47 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Do we know this for sure or is this just a theory everyone has right now?
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:49 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Everything is a theory bro
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:51 pm to Cosmo
I was just wondering if there are clues in the books I missed or if it's just speculation.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 7:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
The theory behind the dragon under Winterfell comes from the hot springs and specifically how warm Cats room was in Winterfell.
The theory behind the dragon in the Wall comes from how the magic around the Wall and how the Wall itself is magical.
There is something of a concept that has been around for awhile about ice dragons and the like. It ranges from there being ice dragons in the Lands of Always Winter, to the idea that the Wall is not natural and there is ice dragons beneath it. The latter example somewhat goes with the idea that the Horn of Winter is capable of waking the "Sleepers"
Also here's this part in the Nights Watch oath:
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all nights to come."
I do think that GRRM's childrens story The Ice Dragon is set in the same world as ASOIAF and I think it may help explain winter and what's ahead
The theory behind the dragon in the Wall comes from how the magic around the Wall and how the Wall itself is magical.
There is something of a concept that has been around for awhile about ice dragons and the like. It ranges from there being ice dragons in the Lands of Always Winter, to the idea that the Wall is not natural and there is ice dragons beneath it. The latter example somewhat goes with the idea that the Horn of Winter is capable of waking the "Sleepers"
Also here's this part in the Nights Watch oath:
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all nights to come."
I do think that GRRM's childrens story The Ice Dragon is set in the same world as ASOIAF and I think it may help explain winter and what's ahead
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:00 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Nice, that's twice today you've come through with answers 
Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:03 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:31 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
I dunno. I think an actual Ice Dragon may be a step too far in the suspension of disbelief department for a book /tv series that tries to keep the magic as "realistic" as possible.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 10:55 pm to Methuselah
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:42 pm to Methuselah
GRRM kept the magic believable for a book or two, then Melisandre started having demon spawn assassin babies, shape shifting, Uncat, and so on. I think the wall being built on top of an ice dragon is not so far fetched. I do firmly believe there is a dragon under Winterfell.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 12:33 am to ZacAttack
Didn't GRRM write a children's book about ice dragons??
Jon is going to ride a dragon; I don't care what the haters say
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Jon is going to ride a dragon; I don't care what the haters say
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