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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:32 pm to
Going through ANOTHER reread of ASoS and I just finished Sansa's Chapter where her aunt tells her she will marry Robert. When Sansa hears that she is a bit broken up inside and realizes no one will ever marry her for love.

So, will Sansa find love or marry?

:twidlesthumbswaitingforladytidertoshipSanSan:
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:00 pm to
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will Sansa find love


She already has, she just hasn't realized it yet.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:41 pm to
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She already has, she just hasn't realized it yet.


Fantastic. I just hope to the old gods and the new and red raloo, that you're not talking about Jon.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 11:45 pm to
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I just hope to the old gods and the new and red raloo, that you're not talking about Jon.


I'm not. She is in love with Sandor and he is in love with her.
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:29 am to
Cold weather would be good for Prince Doran's gout
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:47 am to
Agree with glass. I think Sandor started to fall in love with her in ACoK and Sansa is gradually starting to figure out and process/realize her love for him. She hates princes like Joffrey and realizes how knights aren't from her songs. She isn't crazy about marrying Harry the Heir either who is basically Robert Baratheon 2.0 (Lyanna, anyone?). Sandor is the only man we see her with who doesn't give a shite about her claim as a Stark.

The books show their 'feelings' a lot more than the tv show and I didn't notice it when I was a Hodor; it's more subtle in the tv show but the signs are there. My opinion completely changed once I read the books though. Sansa mentions him quite often in ASoS & AFFC plus she kept his Kingsguard cloak. She also replays the Unkiss that never happened and had a dream/thought about him in her marriage bed. And he saved her from getting raped from the mob in ACoK. Plus is there any coincidence that he was with her when she started her first period and the whole Blackwater chapter in the book is really sexual in nature ("sing a song for me" and how it took place on her bed; and how she felt a 'wetness' on his face besides the blood). And the Kingsguard cloak he left her is white and had blood on it (loss of virginity) and she wrapped herself in it (marriage cloak). Has nothing to do with being a crazy SanSan shipper lol. There is actually a basis in this "ship" and there's a lot of context clues and symbolism in the book that can substantiate it.

It's anyone's guess who Sansa will end up with, but I have zero problems with Sandor. Obviously he has a lot of issues and baggage but assuming he's the Gravedigger, he's working through his inner demons. He would protect her and love her for who she is and not for her claim or social standing.

Also, their story is the Beauty & the Beast trope (and Jaime & Brienne's to an extent). But, Sandor is finding his "beauty"/peace within himself and Sansa is becoming more of a beast/fierce and embracing her Stark roots.

I hope Sansa will find happiness and she deserves it.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 12:49 am
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 7:22 am to
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ladytiger118


Bravo. Her saving the KG cloak sealed it for me.

Less than 13 hours to trailer time..
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 9:00 am to
Less than 11 hours !!
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 12:52 pm to
7 hours
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:11 pm to
Less than 6 hours to go.
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:15 pm to
How do you think they're gonna keep Lora's at KL in the show, given that he's no KG and is now heir to HG and should be looking for a wife since Cersei isn't leaving power?
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:27 pm to
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How do you think they're gonna keep Lora's at KL in the show, given that he's no KG and is now heir to HG and should be looking for a wife since Cersei isn't leaving power?


Good question. Maybe he'll join the KG in the show? And then show him in Dragonstone in S5/confirm if he's actually injured or not?

I also wonder what they plan on doing with Bronn besides making him Jaime's 'trainer' since Ilyn Payne is dying of cancer. No Lollys in the show. . From what I remember when I read the books Bronn didn't do anything books 4 & 5. That's another issue: a lot of characters that had a significant-enough presence in the first 3 books are either MIA or not doing much in 4 & 5 (The Hound is all-but-confirmed as the the Quiet Isle Gravedigger, but not much else is mentioned; Bronn married to Lollys, not much else mentioned; Loras goes to Dragonstone, doesn't really do anything else).
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:36 pm to
They could just say that Bronn married some lordling's daughter with a small chance of succession.

I totally want Bronn to be with Jaime when he sets out for the Rivelands. The one-line possibilities are endless. Bronn v. Castle Darry, Bronn v. Freys, Bronn v. Jaime's squires, Bronn v. the guards at Stoney Sept, etc.

How are they gonna extend the Arya/Hound storyline? And what of Gendry, will he even be in this season?


ETA: westeros is down. The Others have taken the website.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:46 pm to
Wait, is there a new trailer tonight?
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:58 pm to
yup
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:52 pm to
Before or after True Detective? I'm watching TWD at a buddy's house then going home to watch True Detective, but I don't want to leave without him seeing the trailer as well. I tend to keep up with everything for my friends.
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:55 pm to
It's before True Detective
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:18 pm to
Close to 2.5 hours to go now.
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 6:56 pm to
1 more hour to go.
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