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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:04 am to FalseProphet
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:04 am to FalseProphet
Not to sound like a Hodor but what is r/gameofthrones?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:51 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I may not be remembering fully, but I don't think it ever said he was dead. He was just stabbed.
Yeah, he prolly survived. Even though he was stabbed multiple times. Why not? And he is probably a Targaryen. Even though he burnt his hand on a lamp when saving the Lord Commander (pretty bad too) And he probably is an end character. (even though he may be dead).
All that makes perfect sense, but this is RR Martin. He dont care.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:54 pm to ladytiger118
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what is r/gameofthrones?
reddit GoT forum
mostly for hipster liberals and basement dwelling wannabe hackers
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:58 pm to TigerRad
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mostly for hipster liberals and basement dwelling wannabe hackers
Unlike the ultra cool posters on this site.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:59 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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Even though he was stabbed multiple times. Why not?
Catelyn had her throat slit, yet she still walks around killing Freys. The Hound had half his face set on fire, yet lived. He also was stabbed a few times, yet he is most likely alive on the Quiet Isle. There are plenty of examples of bad injuries that people survived in the story.
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And he is probably a Targaryen. Even though he burnt his hand on a lamp when saving the Lord Commander
This idea that Targs are immune to fire has been constantly put down in this thread.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:03 pm to PsychTiger
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Unlike the ultra cool posters on this site.
id guess this thread has a little older avg poster age than the GoT subreddit, but who knows
the TD demographic is certainly a lot different than reddit, no?
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:21 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Catelyn had her throat slit,
True, she's a zombie.
What? the Hound is alive? Damn, I was pretty sure he was dead too. Maybe I skipped over the part where it said he lived.
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This idea that Targs are immune to fire has been constantly put down in this thread.
True, because Viserys wasn't immune.
You really cant intelligently guess what will happen next mainly because Martin doesnt want you too. I guess that's what makes it worth reading.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:24 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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Maybe I skipped over the part where it said he lived.
I don't recall it being stated explicitly, but they laid some pretty heavy hints....like just short of stating it explicitly.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:24 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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What? the Hound is alive? Damn, I was pretty sure he was dead too. Maybe I skipped over the part where it said he lived.
LINK
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:30 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
The Elder Brother of the monastery, while speaking to Brienne, seems to know an awful lot about the mind and soul of Sandor Clegane. Perhaps too much for having only briefly spoken to him as he died.
The gravedigger at the monastery is a large man, bigger than Brienne.
The gravedigger, along with all the other novices, wears a scarf which covers his face. This would have made it impossible for Brienne to have seen the distinctive burns attributed to Sandor.
The gravedigger has a healing injury similar to the one that Sandor received at the Inn at the Crossroads.
Brienne notices the gravedigger bend down to pet a dog, which many readers believe is a hint left by GRRM.
The Elder Brother is very vague while speaking of the death of The Hound. It is possible that he is speaking metaphorically and that he believes the violent and angry version of Sandor has died and now the new Sandor lives on. This is supported by the fact that the Elder Brother mentions that he 'died' on the Trident when he used to be a warrior. In reality his 'death' only consisted of a major life change (as he believes Sandor has taken).
The presence of Sandor's black horse Stranger (now named Driftwood) on the Quiet Isle is another clue. It has been previously stated that only Sandor could lead or ride Stranger as the horse is exceptionally hard to handle.
Some readers consider the fact that Davos Seaworth saw Sandor board a ship named the Prayer during the Battle of the Blackwater significant.
The gravedigger at the monastery is a large man, bigger than Brienne.
The gravedigger, along with all the other novices, wears a scarf which covers his face. This would have made it impossible for Brienne to have seen the distinctive burns attributed to Sandor.
The gravedigger has a healing injury similar to the one that Sandor received at the Inn at the Crossroads.
Brienne notices the gravedigger bend down to pet a dog, which many readers believe is a hint left by GRRM.
The Elder Brother is very vague while speaking of the death of The Hound. It is possible that he is speaking metaphorically and that he believes the violent and angry version of Sandor has died and now the new Sandor lives on. This is supported by the fact that the Elder Brother mentions that he 'died' on the Trident when he used to be a warrior. In reality his 'death' only consisted of a major life change (as he believes Sandor has taken).
The presence of Sandor's black horse Stranger (now named Driftwood) on the Quiet Isle is another clue. It has been previously stated that only Sandor could lead or ride Stranger as the horse is exceptionally hard to handle.
Some readers consider the fact that Davos Seaworth saw Sandor board a ship named the Prayer during the Battle of the Blackwater significant.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:38 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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What? the Hound is alive? Damn, I was pretty sure he was dead too. Maybe I skipped over the part where it said he lived.
I know Brienne's chapters are boring for the most part, but go reread Brienne VI. "The Hound" died in his arms and begged for the gift of mercy, but Elder Brother swore a vow not to kill anymore...lots of metaphorical talk by Elder Brother about him. Stranger is also there and the Gravedigger has an injured leg (like Sandor) and bent down to pet a dog. Stranger is also being kept there and the septons renamed him "Driftwood". There's also a Crackpot theory I read once that Elder Brother departs for the Vale soon after Brienne and co. leave to go find Sansa and that's he's posing as one of the knights at the Eyrie. Heavily Crackpot, like I said. But the Elder Brother was a knight before he became a Brother. Also another theory is that Sandor (upon hearing what Brienne said) leaves for the Vale too. But I think both of these theories are too pie in the sky for Martin to do.
The idea is that the Hound is there to heal and recover from his physical, mental, and spiritual wounds from his life. And think about what Beric said in ASoS/Season 3, "Go in peace, Sandor Clegane. The Lord of Light isn't done with you yet." I think he's coming back to the main plot in some way in TWoW. Not sure how, but whether it's fighting/killing Robert Strong, finding Sansa, finding Arya, whatever, I think he's coming back.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:10 pm to ladytiger118
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I think he's coming back.
I sure hope so. I love his story.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:56 pm to ladytiger118
Feast for Crows seems so long ago. I need to do some rereading I reckon.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:52 pm to glassman
Me too. But I think for me it's because I want to see him happy with his little bird
. And because I love Rory McCann's portrayal of him.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:05 pm to ladytiger118
I really like that he is a true badass killing machine, but with a human side. Unlike his psychotic brother.
His interactions with Arya are some of my favorites.
His interactions with Arya are some of my favorites.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:14 pm to ladytiger118
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I definitely agree it's more likely for Arya to kill Varys and Sansa to kill Littlefinger. IMO Littlefinger being killed by someone other than Sansa would be dissatisfying. Plus Sansa is learning how to 'play the game'. She knows she has Littlefinger by the balls and I'm not saying she's going to do what drunk Cersei told her during Blackwater about women using what's between their legs as a weapon, BUT I think Sansa will start using her sexuality more.
I think she's gonna kill him, but I wouldn't care if someone else does. It could be something like her calling him out and he's about to kill her with Jon/Arya/Tyrion breaking in and saving her
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:21 pm to glassman
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I think he's coming back. I sure hope so. I love his story.
He's coming back, he's got to kill the Mountain. Who else is gonna do it? Jaime?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:24 pm to putt23
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He's coming back, he's got to kill the Mountain.
I think he is for sure.
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Who else is gonna do it? Jaime?
Not a chance.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:52 pm to glassman
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I really like that he is a true badass killing machine, but with a human side. Unlike his psychotic brother.
His interactions with Arya are some of my favorites.
Maisie Williams and Rory McCann do excellent with the Arya Sandor dialogue.
Really loved this scene in the show and I'm really looking forward to the "Is there gold in the village scene" (assuming that's the Arya Hound scene in the S4 trailer) :
Killing Freys
Also just saw this meme on Facebook:
Posted on 1/14/14 at 5:58 pm to ladytiger118
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Killing Freys
So great, thanks for the link.
Lol.. at Ygritte.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 6:06 pm
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