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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:08 pm to
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The one thing that never made sense to me about D&E was how they could be so stupid as to mess with hatching dragon eggs. Aegon was a just and moral king, there is no way he would risk something like that.This completely explains all of that. Crackpot accepted, placed in the pipe, and deeply inhaled. (Knods in satisfaction)


I have the same thoughts about Aegon. He wasn't mad and seemed like a great king; when I first read about the Tragedy of Summerhall I suspected that something was amiss and that we weren't getting the full story. The Crackpot theory would also explain Rhaegar's melancholy (because he would've been born into death and tragedy, done at the hands of his father, the King, and his father's Hand).

Aegon may have very well wanted to hatch another dragon, but I could also see Tywin and Aerys scheming together and using the 'hatched dragon and fire' theory to cover up what they did. And Grand Maester Pycelle was a Lannister kiss arse so you know that he would've kept his mouth shut about the incident; and Rhaella was deathly afraid of her crazy husband her whole life, poor woman.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:20 pm to
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The Crackpot theory would also explain Rhaegar's melancholy (because he would've been born into death and tragedy, done at the hands of his father, the King, and his father's Hand).


Well, no matter what actually happened, Rhaegar was likely fed the egg hatching story anyway since his father would be the one to tell him what happened.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:14 pm to
Question for the long time readers, how did Martin announce that feast and dance were finished?

Was he hint he was close or did he just one day say " hey books done it will be out......"

Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 12:07 am to
I've been wondering that too since I'm a 'summer child' as the diehard-since-late-1990s-readers refer to as post-show readers.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 1:07 am to
I could be wrong but I was told he kept setting dates/timeframes for Dance to be finished and then pushing them back and thats why hes been really quite about Winds of Winter progress.
Posted by The Dude Abides
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 2:26 am to
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He will be, since I think she'll pull an Aerys and rig King's Landing to blow once Littlefinger betrays her in killing the Freys and taking the Vale and Riverlands with him. I think the Tyrells and Tarlys will open the gates of King's Landing for Aegon's army, and Margeary will escape her wrath. Cersei then proceeds to poison Tommen, and tells her pyromancer or Qyburn to light the city on fire.

Jaime then shows up, to which Cersei is overjoyed saying that she always knew they'd die together. Jaime interrupts her asking where Tommen is, and then once he gets the answer, he then asks her if she knows why he truly killed Aerys. She says that Jaime did his duty as a Lannister and secured their family's legacy. Jaime says she is wrong and goes into details on why he killed Aerys. Slowly but surely Cersei realizes that she herself had turned into the Mad King and that Jaime was here to kill her, and that he was the true Valonqar. After finishing his story, Jaime tells her that he had secured Tommen's life and the Lannister legacy, but she destroyed it all, and then Jaime strangles and kills her.

You forgot that while he is strangling her she stabs him in the belly, he finishes the job, lies down with her and dies.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Cersei kill Tommen, but it would be to "protect" him. To keep him from falling into the hands of the enemy and dieing violently.
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 2:28 am
Posted by Boudin
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 3:27 am to
Off topic, but what do people believe "Hodor" means?

Could that be the name of the Great Other?
Posted by The Dude Abides
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 3:54 am to
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Off topic, but what do people believe "Hodor" means?

Could that be the name of the Great Other?
I assumed he was a doorman at one of LF Brothels.
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 4:40 am to
Google with the assist

LINK /
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 8:21 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:54 am to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:08 am to
So Hodor is the biggest badass in Westeros. Got it.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:22 am to
From that thread...
quote:


Brienne is a descendant of Dunk (confirmed),



Anyone know how this is true/possible?
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:25 am to
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So Hodor is the biggest badass in Westeros. Got it.


Thats what you took away from the link??
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:33 am to


Isn't Hodor also a descendant of Dunk (maybe Old Nan hooked up with Dunk )? Or just part giant?
Posted by FalseProphet
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:42 am to
Anyone want to explain this Dunk & Egg stuff to me? I really just want to know what it is before I go on a google adventure.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:44 am to
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Thats what you took away from the link??

no not really, I didn't take away too much from that link.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Isn't Hodor also a descendant of Dunk

yes, it is known.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Anyone know how this is true/possible?


It's implied when there's some emphasis placed on Dunk's shield hanging in the hall at Tarth. And Brienne's size/demeanor.'Nothing is ever confirmed.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:48 am to
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Anyone want to explain this Dunk & Egg stuff to me?

Dunk & Egg are three short stories GRRM wrote that take place in Westeros 100 years before A Game of Thrones. Dunk is a large knight and Egg is Aegon Targaryen.

If you want them, I could email them to you.

If anyone else wants them, feel free to hit me up.

hugostiglitztd@gmail.com
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 9:09 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:58 am to
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