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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:02 pm to
Super Crackpot: Mance is Dayne, but the reason no one recognizes him is because he is also a faceless man.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:06 pm to
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Mance wrote the Ramsay letter, because he wants to reveal the truth to his son in the Stark crypts and perhaps give him a certain sword which has been rumored to be in Lyanna's tomb.



Boom. The letter is solved.




From the same site that Carson got that stuff:

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Mance wasn't sent to the Wall, at least not in the way that most people are. Mance was born beyond-the-Wall, and as a small child he was the lone survivor of a ranger-wildling clash. The rangers took him back to the Shadow Tower, where he grew up until he said his vows. Also, there are two big knots in this theory. The first is Mance's going to Winterfell when King Robert was there. If Mance really were Arthur Dayne, there are a number of people who could have recognized him: Ned Stark; Robert Baratheon; Jaime Lannister; Cersei Lannister; possibly Benjen Stark (he would have seen Dayne at the Tournament of Harrenhal); maybe even Catelyn Stark. The second knot is Ned's own recollection of the events at the Tower of Joy. Why would Ned lie in his own thoughts about him and Howland Reed being the only survivors, or his having built eight cairns to bury the dead? Remember, we're not talking about something Ned told someone, but his inner monologue. I don't see Ned as the kind of person who would internally lie to himself.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:12 pm to
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Super Crackpot: Mance is Dayne, but the reason no one recognizes him is because he is also a faceless man.
i'm almost certain that two of Dany's dragons are faceless men
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:27 pm to
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One of the most well known knights in the kingsguard would be recognizable to half the realm, not just Jaime.


This would seal it for me.

However, I can't remember if Jorah could recognize Selmy. That was kept a secret for awhile.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:28 pm to
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i'm almost certain that two of Dany's dragons are faceless men


You're a faceless man, and YOU'RE a faceless man! EVERYONE'S A FACELESS MAN!!!!
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:31 pm to
carson + belle = j
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:32 pm to
Rheagar was a super saiyen.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:36 pm to
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You're a faceless man, and YOU'RE a faceless man! EVERYONE'S A FACELESS MAN!!!!


Don't forget that a faceless man took the place of Ned and he and benjen are bro'ing out in the deep north saving the world from the others
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:42 pm to
Character that are currently cursed and why:

Nearly all the Freys: Guest Rights violation at the Red Wedding

Roose Bolton: Lord of Harrenhal (which is a cursed title) and Guest Rights at Red Wedding

Stannis: Kinslayer curse via Renly

Tyrion Lannister: Kinslayer via Tywin

Petyr Baelish: Lord of Harrenhal

who else?
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:44 pm to
baelish will break the curse
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:50 pm to
It's been while since I read Feast and Dance. Where is Roose and his army the end of Dance? I thought it had marched north and "liberated" Moat Caelin?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:51 pm to
That's what Janos Slynt thought
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 2:56 pm
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Character that are currently cursed and why:

Nearly all the Freys: Guest Rights violation at the Red Wedding

Roose Bolton: Lord of Harrenhal (which is a cursed title) and Guest Rights at Red Wedding

Stannis: Kinslayer curse via Renly

Tyrion Lannister: Kinslayer via Tywin

Petyr Baelish: Lord of Harrenhal

who else?
umm...Jaime for Aerys II
Cersei and Jamie for shagging on the altar


when all these chess pieces fall the only one left standing will be the mighty Hot Pie astride his giant Bread Dragon


This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:13 pm to
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umm...Jaime for Aerys II

I thought about him but unlike Kinslaying, it's wasn't confirmed that Kingslaying is curse worthy.

If it was, we could add another curse to Baelish for Joffery.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
and Ser Dontos and Lady Olyenna for abetting

i think we can excuse Oswell Kettleblack and the Whent guy since they only help Sansa Doublechin escape
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
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Where is Roose and his army the end of Dance?

about to get buttfricked by the ghosts in the crypts at Winterfell.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:18 pm to
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Roose Bolton: Lord of Harrenhal (which is a cursed title) and Guest Rights at Red Wedding


Technically, he wouldn't be cursed for this. Robb was not Roose's guest.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:19 pm to
is there an interactive map that traces the journeys of the main characters?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 3:20 pm to
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Technically, he wouldn't be cursed for this. Robb was not Roose's guest.

But he masterminded mass murder under guest rights.

The gods will not be merciful, I would think.
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