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German Travel: Looking to visit Frankfurt and Cologne and/or surrounding areas in future
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:03 pm
About a year ago one of my closest friends and his family moved to just outside of Frankfurt (military). We've been planning to visit but haven't made it yet.
Now, my wife's best friend who moved to Europe a few months ago got a job in Cologne and is moving there for awhile.
Since several of our good friends are in the same general area, we plan on visiting once all this is over.
Frankfurt doesn't look particularly interesting to me, Cologne looks cool. I doubt we will have time when we do go to go all the way to Berlin or the other side of the country.
So your thoughts on Frankfurt and Cologne, or places nearby to visit that you have enjoyed. I would define nearby as within 2.5 hours or so by train.
Now, my wife's best friend who moved to Europe a few months ago got a job in Cologne and is moving there for awhile.
Since several of our good friends are in the same general area, we plan on visiting once all this is over.
Frankfurt doesn't look particularly interesting to me, Cologne looks cool. I doubt we will have time when we do go to go all the way to Berlin or the other side of the country.
So your thoughts on Frankfurt and Cologne, or places nearby to visit that you have enjoyed. I would define nearby as within 2.5 hours or so by train.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:22 pm to Fun Bunch
Not been to Cologne but Frankfurt is probably the least interesting place in Europe. There's really not much there at all. If you're going to be in Germany I'd suggest sticking to Bavaria.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:28 pm to weaveballs1
Like I said, we have friends living outside of Frankfurt and in Cologne so we are kind of stuck a bit with that.
It would be the height of dickery to travel to Germany and be like "Nah we will be elsewhere".
Trust me, I would MUCH prefer Bavaria. Her friend in Cologne would probably meet us anywhere in Germany. But my friend in Frankfurt (he may actually be closer to Stuttgart), is military and has 3 kids. May be harder for him.
It would be the height of dickery to travel to Germany and be like "Nah we will be elsewhere".
Trust me, I would MUCH prefer Bavaria. Her friend in Cologne would probably meet us anywhere in Germany. But my friend in Frankfurt (he may actually be closer to Stuttgart), is military and has 3 kids. May be harder for him.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:44 pm to Fun Bunch
Heidelberg
Rhine boat castle tour (can do anything from a few hours to a whole day)
Wertheim Village (shopping)
Neuschwanstein Castle
Strasbourg (really enjoyed this city)
ETA: Nuremberg is also a cool city
Rhine boat castle tour (can do anything from a few hours to a whole day)
Wertheim Village (shopping)
Neuschwanstein Castle
Strasbourg (really enjoyed this city)
ETA: Nuremberg is also a cool city
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 2:56 pm to Fun Bunch
you can honestly do köln in one day. there is the cathedral, and that is pretty much it. plus it is conveniently located right next to the main train station. if you would really like to piss off the locals, tell them that you prefer düsseldorf to their city, and that you prefer altbier to kolsch.
if you are willing to go as far as köln, consider going a little further to aachen if you are into medieval history. charlemagne ruled from here, and is buried here with his relics. there is a cool museum and also the cathedral is quite nice.
that is assuming you are leaving from frankfurt. if you friend is closer to stuttgart, then munich is doable. closer is heidelberg, a cool little university town. i used to live in tübingen for grad school, another little university town just outside of stuttgart and would take day trips to freiburg near the black forest, and weekends to strassburg in france and innsbruck in austria.
if you are willing to go as far as köln, consider going a little further to aachen if you are into medieval history. charlemagne ruled from here, and is buried here with his relics. there is a cool museum and also the cathedral is quite nice.
that is assuming you are leaving from frankfurt. if you friend is closer to stuttgart, then munich is doable. closer is heidelberg, a cool little university town. i used to live in tübingen for grad school, another little university town just outside of stuttgart and would take day trips to freiburg near the black forest, and weekends to strassburg in france and innsbruck in austria.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 5:28 pm to Fun Bunch
I have been to Frankfurt. A few years ago we took a tour of the Alpine countries - southern Germany, Austria, Switzerland and the Dolomites and Lake Region of Italy. The reason we went to Frankfurt was because we flew in and out of the airport there. It was a great trip, although I would not consider Frankfurt one of the major highlights. The main thing we did in Frankfurt was hang around Romerburg Square. It is in a nice, Old Town area right near the river with shops, cafes and beer halls. Fun place to hang around for a few hours. There is a beautiful cathedral a couple of blocks away. I have never been to Cologne, but my suggestion is to spend a little time in Frankfurt and try to explore other areas in Germany.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 5:41 pm to Fun Bunch
If you focus on visiting friends and don’t think of this as an epic Germany trip, you’ll be fine. Frankfurt isn’t old world scenic, but you can still find lots of good German food and beer. Let them show you around their neighborhood, their fave spots, and then plan a weekend excursion to a smaller, more scenic town. If Frankfurt is your base, Strasbourg is only 1.5 hrs by train—you could sneak in a bit of France.
Even everyday life in another place can be deeply interesting, if you are curious and open minded.
Even everyday life in another place can be deeply interesting, if you are curious and open minded.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 6:29 am to hungryone
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Even everyday life in another place can be deeply interesting, if you are curious and open minded.
Absolutely. I could go anywhere in Europe for a week easily and be entertained. Go to local markets, local events, catch a local futbol game, eat some local non touristy restaurants, etc.
Especially with friends there when you can just go to their favorite beer garden and BS all afternoon.
I say this all the time and it’s overly cliche but many of my favorite travel days were those without a schedule of known sites to visit where we just explored a small town or neighborhood. You do this in two towns a day and easily have a full day. Also incredibly relaxing as you have nothing to check off.
Eta: Germany is huge into biking, so great place to borrow or rent bikes and explore. You can cover 10-20 miles or more very easily.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 6:33 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 11:05 pm to Fun Bunch
Frankfurt is a major international travel hub, so your flight will probably go here no matter what (assuming you're coming from North America).
Frankfurt is kind of lacklustre though, however if your main point of going there is to visit friends, then that's good and they can surely bring you to some interesting places with good food (and beer!)
Cologne is a more aesthetic city and if you have friends there too, then the sentiments above apply again.
Berlin is fascinating, and Germany is a small country, and the train system works perfectly and quickly; so, I don't know your time or budget, but it would seem remiss to not visit Berlin, perhaps for some downtime with your partner at the end of your trip.
One note though, if you are American, avoid talking about that or politics at any cost. Americans are seriously disrespected everywhere now, especially, truly especially, if you talk about the military. If you want to experience German (or any) culture outside of an expat community, do not mention you are an "ami" or that you are there to visit a military friend. You will almost certainly be "socially distanced".
Frankfurt is kind of lacklustre though, however if your main point of going there is to visit friends, then that's good and they can surely bring you to some interesting places with good food (and beer!)
Cologne is a more aesthetic city and if you have friends there too, then the sentiments above apply again.
Berlin is fascinating, and Germany is a small country, and the train system works perfectly and quickly; so, I don't know your time or budget, but it would seem remiss to not visit Berlin, perhaps for some downtime with your partner at the end of your trip.
One note though, if you are American, avoid talking about that or politics at any cost. Americans are seriously disrespected everywhere now, especially, truly especially, if you talk about the military. If you want to experience German (or any) culture outside of an expat community, do not mention you are an "ami" or that you are there to visit a military friend. You will almost certainly be "socially distanced".
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:56 pm to Liminalbob
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If you want to experience German (or any) culture outside of an expat community, do not mention you are an "ami" or that you are there to visit a military friend.
he doesn't have to mention anything, germans can spot americans a mile away, and if they can't the second he opens his mouth they will know if he doesn't have perfect german.
just don't be a stooge, and you'll be okay especially in germany.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:19 pm to Liminalbob
I have spent plenty of time in Europe and know when to not talk about politics.
I usually let them talk and make non-committal comments. In my experience, Europeans are extremely fascinated by American Politics and love to give their opinions and find out what we think.
I'm not really worried about that.
So my friend lives right outside of Kaiserslautern actually. I spoke to him and he has spent very very little time in Frankfurt, so I doubt we would spend much if we can and visited.
I usually let them talk and make non-committal comments. In my experience, Europeans are extremely fascinated by American Politics and love to give their opinions and find out what we think.
I'm not really worried about that.
So my friend lives right outside of Kaiserslautern actually. I spoke to him and he has spent very very little time in Frankfurt, so I doubt we would spend much if we can and visited.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:03 pm to Fun Bunch
I've been to both many times.
Cologne: the Cathedral is a must. And doing typical Euro things (like sitting outside and drinking the small Kolsch beers). Not the prettiest city.
Frankfurt: unlike others, I actually enjoy the Frank. Go across the river to Sachsenhausen and enjoy some of the traditional Apfelwein restaurants like Fichtekranzi.
Cologne: the Cathedral is a must. And doing typical Euro things (like sitting outside and drinking the small Kolsch beers). Not the prettiest city.
Frankfurt: unlike others, I actually enjoy the Frank. Go across the river to Sachsenhausen and enjoy some of the traditional Apfelwein restaurants like Fichtekranzi.
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