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Flight schedule changes/higher fares in the covid era
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/20/20 at 9:21 pm
Anyone else getting frustrated by all of these schedule changes? I've been browsing flights for labor day, thanksgiving, and christmas and I'm getting frustrated. Have quite a bit of $$ on delta from previously cancelled flights, but can't seem to use it for a regularly priced one-way flight (<$200). Most of the flights are $500+ for labor day, $250+ thanksgiving, and $500+ christmas. My guess is that with all of these schedule changes a lot of people are getting rebooked onto existing flights, thus eliminating our regular T, X, U regular economy fares and only being left with B, M, and Y full economy fares.
In any case, there's great airfares on American, United, and Southwest for a lot of these holidays. I hate having money just sit there with delta, but at this point I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and fly another airline. Found a great $75 fare on southwest SEA-SMF for the wednesday before thanksgiving, looking at a $90 fare SEA-BUF for labor day on american but not a big AA fan. Has AA gotten better than a few years ago?
Sorry for the vent but is anyone else noticing higher fares or very inconvenient schedule changes?
In any case, there's great airfares on American, United, and Southwest for a lot of these holidays. I hate having money just sit there with delta, but at this point I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and fly another airline. Found a great $75 fare on southwest SEA-SMF for the wednesday before thanksgiving, looking at a $90 fare SEA-BUF for labor day on american but not a big AA fan. Has AA gotten better than a few years ago?
Sorry for the vent but is anyone else noticing higher fares or very inconvenient schedule changes?
Posted on 7/21/20 at 6:47 am to CuseTiger
Delta’s business model during this has been very interesting. It is like they are holding to capacity constraints and assuming their product is differentiated enough to demand the higher prices. Meanwhile AA and UAL have tried to add supply and cut fares.
Delta has to be losing market share but I suspect that they have preserved more cash. I think they are simply trying to mitigate their fixed expenses while minimizing variable costs. Really perplexing approach but I haven’t analyzed the financials enough.
Delta has to be losing market share but I suspect that they have preserved more cash. I think they are simply trying to mitigate their fixed expenses while minimizing variable costs. Really perplexing approach but I haven’t analyzed the financials enough.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:09 am to CuseTiger
I was looking for something after Christmas via Delta and was kinda shocked at those prices. I thought maybe it was just because of the timing because I, like you have some vouchers that expire in Jan.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:24 pm to CaptainJ47
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It is like they are holding to capacity constraints and assuming their product is differentiated enough to demand the higher prices.
Agreed that's what they're doing but it has been a major turnoff to customers imo. I can't justify spending an extra $300 one-way for a free checked bag and exit row seat as a gold medallion. Let alone schedule wise it's down to one or two connecting flights a day through ATL or DTW plus NYC is completely gone meaning if you miss the flight you're screwed.
I get why they're trying to save cash, but from the customer standpoint I can't see being loyal to them if they don't have the schedule or pricing to get me where I need to go. Have you had success flying with them during all of this?
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:25 pm to tduecen
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have some vouchers that expire in Jan
Didnt they push the voucher date until later? I haven't checked but of the like 5 or 6 vouchers I have I think they expire fall 2021? Could be very wrong
Posted on 7/21/20 at 1:57 pm to CuseTiger
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In any case, there's great airfares on American, United, and Southwest for a lot of these holidays
This. I've seen some killer deals on SW, especially with miles. Going to end up using all of my Chase points transferring to SW.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 4:50 pm to CuseTiger
I haven’t been able to book flights out of Jackson Hole because of their schedule reductions.
Due to the service downgrades, and the mask requirements, I expect I’ll drive instead of fly for the foreseeable future.
Due to the service downgrades, and the mask requirements, I expect I’ll drive instead of fly for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:07 pm to CuseTiger
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I can't justify spending an extra $300 one-way for a free checked bag and exit row seat as a gold medallion.
Reasonable, also reasonable is Delta can not justify flying routes at a loss.
It will be interesting to see which airlines strategy allows them to emerge the least damaged.
UA and AA will likely be filling for bankrupcy protection very soon and just DNGAF how much debt they pile up in the meantime IMHO.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:30 pm to CuseTiger
I didn’t say I agree with it, let me state that. What I would do is book another flight before 9/30 and then cancel that to extend the voucher until shite normalizes.
I am a DAL loyalist. However I will be taking my AA challenge for status once I have any travel visibility.
I am a DAL loyalist. However I will be taking my AA challenge for status once I have any travel visibility.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:19 am to CuseTiger
I’ve had 6 or so flights in last two weeks and not a single issue with SW. No chances or cancellations from anything I’ve been looking at. 
I use them for domestic, mainly bc I hate the shitty regionals most other carriers use.
I use them for domestic, mainly bc I hate the shitty regionals most other carriers use.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 7:21 am
Posted on 7/25/20 at 12:53 pm to Lsut81
Sorry for delay, finally have time to think about travel stuff given it's the weekend.
So in continuing my browse of christmas flights for SEA-FLL, I checked on southwest just now and found $230 roundtrip for Wed 12/23 to Sunday 12/27. Needless to say compared to the $800 delta or alaska wants or the $400 American wants, Southwest wins again. They got my thanksgiving business and now my christmas business because of their pricing.
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I’ve had 6 or so flights in last two weeks and not a single issue with SW. No chances or cancellations from anything I’ve been looking at
So in continuing my browse of christmas flights for SEA-FLL, I checked on southwest just now and found $230 roundtrip for Wed 12/23 to Sunday 12/27. Needless to say compared to the $800 delta or alaska wants or the $400 American wants, Southwest wins again. They got my thanksgiving business and now my christmas business because of their pricing.
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