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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:38 pm
I have been out of the travel game for a little over a year but getting back to it. Has anyone been recently? I'm thinking of just saying F it and if they get me they get me. Definitely one place you do the tourist trap thing though, will go to Jordan to see Petra though.

Hotel 6 nights and RT flight are about 2K.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:44 pm to
The new museum in Cairo will blow your mind. Valley of the Kings is awesome, Giza Plateau...lots of cool shite. Hire a driver who security and they will drive you during the daytime. Avoid the countryside at night.

The street food scene in Cairo is awesome.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:52 pm to
Hopefully around March I will be able to add this to our review list.

Just realized I never did a Prague review.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by pkloa
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:59 pm to
We're using Misr Travel for tour guide. They're pricier than some other options, but they came recommended from a Cairo resident. I'll update as to their perceived quality in about a week and a half.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:03 am to
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We're using Misr Travel for tour guide. They're pricier than some other options, but they came recommended from a Cairo resident. I'll update as to their perceived quality in about a week and a half.


Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 2:06 am to
I think you should definitely go for it. We just got back from a side trip to Israel and it was an amazing experience. We were hesitant because there was some substantial bombing going on in the Gaza Strip last week, but it did not effect anything. Even when we were out in the Dead Sea and dessert areas, we felt extremely safe. There were a lot of people staying at our hotel who raved about doing a 2 day trip to Jordan and Petra but we did not have enough time.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:41 pm to
That region really needs at least two weeks to visit. Israel will be a separate trip. Diving in the Red Sea is supposed to be incredible.
Posted by TFTC
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm thinking of just saying F it and if they get me they get me.


just wear one of these and you'll be fine...

Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:43 pm to
Yeah, it really is an incredible region that scares away so many.

We looked into Egypt and had been recommended to only do 2 days in Cairo to see the big sites and spend the rest of the time on the Red Sea in Dahab for diving as well as some cool desert activities in a more authentic town.

Btw, when we were looking, I noticed you can get much cheaper fares if you book a flight to Rome and then fly to Cairo from there. I think it was only like $150 RT from Italy.
Posted by lionward2014
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 1:50 am to
My father in law went back in October and liked it. He said the only time he felt “unsafe” was going through hotel security because it made it feel like it was insecure, if that makes sense. He loved the markets and pyramids, and said he would go back to do more tourist things (work trip so he didn’t get many free days).
Posted by Manzielathon
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Diving in the Red Sea is supposed to be incredible.


I went diving by Aqaba, Jordan in the Red Sea ... mind blowing experience and by far better than any I had done in Costa Rica / Colombia.

Water was crystal clear and you could see 150 feet in any direction. I highly recommend it.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 2:12 pm to
I thought Egypt was an absolutely unsafe shitehole. The men are very aggressive, security is extremely lax, and the airport is a clusterfrick (an “official” asked for a bribe to give my passport back- I snatched it and ran- that’s how I discovered the metal detectors don’t work (had all my electronics in my travel vest). Dead animals littered waterways and stray children roam the land as prey for any predator, local or foreign. Two regular bombs, and one car bomb went off while I was there (June 2015). The old museum gift shop was still burnt out. Have you considered Lebanon? Baalbek is amazing and it’s way safer and more laidback. I actually explored Lebanon streets by myself (as a woman). I didn’t even leave the hotel without a driver and guide in Egypt.

It’s been discussed a bit here:

LINK
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted by cave canem
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:16 am to
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I thought Egypt was an absolutely unsafe shitehole. The men are very aggressive, security is extremely lax, and the airport is a clusterfrick (an “official” asked for a bribe to give my passport back- I snatched it and ran- that’s how I discovered the metal detectors don’t work (had all my electronics in my travel vest). Dead animals littered waterways and stray children roam the land as prey for any predator, local or foreign. Two regular bombs, and one car bomb went off while I was there (June 2015). The old museum gift shop was still burnt out. Have you considered Lebanon? Baalbek is amazing and it’s way safer and more laidback. I actually explored Lebanon streets by myself (as a woman). I didn’t even leave the hotel without a driver and guide in Egypt.




You should probably stick to suburbia and never watch the news.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:14 pm to
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You should probably stick to suburbia and never watch the news.


Yes, because Lebanon is such an unnewsworthy suburb. OP asked for advice on Egypt. I gave my honest opinion. You know Egypt has an 87% female genital mutilation rate, right? Of course you don’t, you’re just pretending to know what the hell you’re talking about. I been to 55 countries- Egypt is a shitehole
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted by tatervol
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:05 pm to
I truly despise people like you.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:53 pm to
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people like you


Do elaborate. Do you think I should sunshine pump Egypt for some reason? That was my experience. That’s been the experience of many people I’ve talked to (including a military man who cut short a leisure trip after his wife was sexually harassed in front of him).
I suspect you actually despise the truth. Here’s a woman Egypt arrested for telling the truth, I guess you despise her too?

LINK

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Mona Mazbouh, 24 years old, spent three months in jail after posting a video on Facebook in May complaining about taxi drivers and men on the street harassing her during a month-long visit to Egypt. She was arrested at Cairo’s airport as she tried to leave the country
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:51 pm to
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Yes, because Lebanon is such an unnewsworthy suburb


WTF does this have to do with anything and who made this claim.

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You know Egypt has an 87% female genital mutilation rate, right?


And so? WTf does that have to do with the topic at hand.


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Of course you don’t, you’re just pretending to know what the hell you’re talking about.


I have lived in Egypt and am currently in KSA, I know exactly what I am talking about.

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I been to 55 countries


congrats, but sorry 55 places had to put up with you.


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Egypt is a shitehole



It has its issues but the fact that you were unable to find one single positive thing says far more about you than it.

You seem to be a miserable human being and I doubt you have ever been 5 miles from your trailer if the truth be known.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:27 pm to
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You should probably stick to suburbia and never watch the news.


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Yes, because Lebanon is such an unnewsworthy suburb WTF does this have to do with anything and who made this claim.


As you see- you made this claim.

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You know Egypt has an 87% female genital mutilation rate, right? And so? WTf does that have to do with the topic at hand.


The topic is travel to Egypt. A widespread barbaric, misogynist practice says a lot about how women are treated in the country.

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Of course you don’t, you’re just pretending to know what the hell you’re talking about. I have lived in Egypt and am currently in KSA, I know exactly what I am talking about.


So what are you talking about? You seem to just be pissed I don’t like the Sunni shitehole you call home. Maybe it’s because you’re from there, or maybe you’re a Sunni or an Israel sunshine pumper.
How do you like the beheaded bodies KSA hangs out by the highway from cranes, btw? How bout the way domestics from third world countries are treated? I guess that doesn’t bother you either?

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Egypt is a shitehole It has its issues but the fact that you were unable to find one single positive thing says far more about you than it. You seem to be a miserable human being and I doubt you have ever been 5 miles from your trailer if the truth be known.


Why should I say something positive about a country where several bombs went off during my trip, children are sent to “Carpet schools,” “officials” wanted bribes while working a non secure airport, women are pulled out the airport and arrested for complaining about sexual harassment, and where graduate students are mysteriously found dead on the side of the highway? the pyramids were nice and I met a few nice people, but overall the country was dirty, unsafe, and hostile to women. You doubt I’ve left “my trailer” yet think I cared enough to make up a misadventure in Egypt with correct dates and events? What a life you must think I lead.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:44 pm to
Find something nice to say about this- I only used incidents since 2017, as using a longer period would make my post far too long:

LINK

This list isn’t even comprehensive- the main articles provide a longer list of attacks and concerns, but smaller incidents are still not listed

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On Palm Sunday 9 April 2017, explosions occurred in St. George's Church in Tanta and St. Mark's Cathedral in Alexandria. 30 people were killed at St. George's and 17 at St. Mark's.[51][52]


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On 14 July 2017 Abdel-Rahman Shaaban, a former university student from the Nile Delta region, swam from a public beach to each of two resort hotel beaches at Hurghada on the Red Sea and stabbed five German and one Czech tourists, all women, killing two German women.


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On May 26, 2017, masked gunmen opened fire on a convoy carrying Egyptian Coptic Christians in Minya, Egypt, killing at least 28 and injuring 26.[


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On 28 December 2018, three Vietnamese tourists and an Egyptian tour guide were killed after a roadside bomb struck a tourist bus in the Giza region near Cairo. At least 11 people were wounded.[54]


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On August 5, 2019, at least 20 people were killed and 47 injured after a car, heavily loaded with a bomb, collided with other vehicles, causing an explosion outside National Cancer Institute in Cairo


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On December 29, 2017, in Helwan, Cairo, Egypt, a gunman opened fire at the Coptic Orthodox Church of Saint Menas and a nearby shop owned by a Coptic man, killing ten citizens and a police officer and injuring around ten people.[1][2]


These are from an expanded list covering terrorism since the MB ouster:

LINK )

Some incidents in 2019:
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19 May - At least 17 people were injured in an explosion which targeted a tourist bus close to the Giza Pyramids. Seven of the injured were South African tourists.[86]


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20 July - British Airways cancelled flights to Cairo for a week, while Lufthansa cancelled flights only for a day, over unspecified security concerns


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5 January - An explosives expert was killed and two other policemen injured in Cairo while trying to defuse a bomb.[70]



Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4106 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:47 pm to
Skip Egypt and go to jordan
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