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cave canem
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re: Egypt
Now do the USA for 2017.

Here is a bit of food for thought

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MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
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re: Egypt
Not really. First, Egypt cannot be trusted to accurately report crime. Second, women themselves are extremely unlikely to report rape in a country where clits are regularly sliced off and honor killings are rampant. Third, nobody wants to deal with corrupt Egyptian police. Fourth, the incidents I cited involved tourist areas and/or targeting of Christians. Most US crime can be avoided with common sense.

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Her story, while not uncommon in Egypt in recent years, with reports of more and more women being killed by their family members in “honor” crimes, has finally come to light, but after two other women were killed near Egypt’s second city of Alexandria in late February, Sarah believes more energy and discussion must be made on the subject for it to end.

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Rape is one of the most common crimes in Egypt.[1] Marital rape is not illegal in Egypt. By 2008, the U.N. quoted Egypt's Interior Ministry's figure that 20,000 rapes take place every year, although according to the activist Engy Ghozlan (ECWR), rapes are 10 times higher than the stats given by Interior Ministry, making it 200,000 per year.[2] Mona Eltahawy has also noted the same figure (200,000), and added that this was before the revolution, and that today the number is actually higher.[3] Rapes have been carried out during festivals and the Egyptian protests, and include the public rapes of women, and female journalists.

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Rapes are usually not reported in Egypt, due to the fear of social rejection, and culturally it is not accepted.


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According to the US State Department country report, "honour crimes" are not actually illegal in Egypt.[citation needed] Farah Shash, a psychologist explains that young boys are rarely stopped or opposed by their parents for molesting girls publicly, it's because the children always saw the same behavior around them. Shash further adds that "Often, families will just laugh".[5] According Seif el-Dawla who runs a center in the country told that "Sexual molestation and harassment ... is routine for women who come across police".


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Among the masses dancing, singing and honking horns, more than 80 women were subjected to mob sexual assaults, harassment or rape. In Tahrir Square since Sunday, when protests against Morsi first began, there have been at least 169 counts of sexual mob crime.


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a report by the Thomson Reuters Foundation shows that Cairo is the world’s most dangerous megacity for women, and has become more perilous since the 2011 uprisings.

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"Everything about the city is difficult for women. We see women struggling in all aspects. Even a simple walk on the street, and they are subjected to harassment, whether verbal or even physical," Egyptian journalist and women's rights campaigner Shahira Amin said.

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Attitudes about sexual harassment in Egypt are at the core of the problem. As in many places, though to a more extreme degree, women in Egypt are blamed for inviting sexual harassment for activities as benign as laughing in public. Those beliefs are inculcated in Egyptians from a young age, and are held by girls as well as boys.

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A 2015 Egypt Health Issues Survey found that roughly nine in every 10 females suffers partial or total removal of external genitalia, despite the practice having been outlawed in 2008.

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The country topped the list of places that are dangerous for women to visit in a Trip.com survey released in August, in large part due to the verbal and sexual harassment that women routinely face there.


Thanks for playing. I’m such a curmudgeon for not paying lip service to the upside of this beautiful country.
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cave canem
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pullarius dominus
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re: Egypt
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Thanks for playing. I’m such a curmudgeon for not paying lip service to the upside of this beautiful country.



No, you are a lair and have never been.

You most obvious lies started with your first post when you snatched your passport out the hand of what would have been an army officer in Egypt then ran through the detector, white girl or no they would have denied you entry for that after they body slammed your stupid ass.

Carry on though and I hope it makes your miserable existence better, something sure needs to.



GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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re: Egypt
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I went diving by Aqaba, Jordan in the Red Sea ... mind blowing experience and by far better than any I had done in Costa Rica / Colombia. Water was crystal clear and you could see 150 feet in any direction. I highly recommend it.


I only went snorkeling, but it was indeed great. I spent a full week in Jordan, and it wasn't enough. Petra definitely lives up to the hype, but Jerash, Wadi Rum, the Crusades-era castles, the Dead Sea, the site of Jesus's baptism, the Byzantine churches of Madaba -- it's an awesome country.

I haven't been to Egypt, but I've read plenty of reports of people getting ripped off and women being sexually harassed. I think that Egypt is a much more difficult country to see completely on your own, without a tour guide.


MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
533 posts

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No, you are a lair and have never been. You most obvious lies started with your first post when you snatched your passport out the hand of what would have been an army officer in Egypt then ran through the detector, white girl or no they would have denied you entry for that after they body slammed your stupid ass.


Your comment betrays the actual lair (probably located in trollsville).

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The so called 'system' is that you pass your bags through a scanner before you get to the airline check in desk. But not there is no queue, there is no organization, expect to be jostled and have to literally climb over abandoned trolleys. It was literally a stampede. People shouting and pushing you. When (if) you get to the bag scanner, be prepared to have fellow passengers throw off your bags in their panic to get through themselve


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Chaos at the first security check. Dirty floors and / or carpets and you have to remove your shoes for screening. Impolite officers and not familiar with safety standards and rules. Messy check in, long queues and too much interference. Local passengers are waved in front, jumping queues.

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The security is a joke, mostly security theatre, with uniformed officials asking for your passport and then leafing through it without looking. Then there's a massive and disorganized security queue where "helpers" sequester your passport and move you to the front of the queue just to ask you for money (and they won't return your passport unless you pay up)


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We go thru security to get to the check in area, but then the security agent stops us and starts looking thru our bags then demands money in order to let us pass.


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Worst airport ever. Over staffed by people trying to rip you off. A seeming lack of management, and goodness knows what is getting through security.


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have been to more than 25 airports worldwide and Cairo has by far been the worst experience I have ever had. Immigration officers are extremely rude and unapologetic. Workers are tricky. They always expect tips


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The whole thing is a mess but the absolute worst part is the main area security staff. They simply ask you for money and seem to target young westerners in particular. Having been asked for money and having refused, I then watched while one security guy searched through my son’s bag, while still sitting at his screen station, looking for, finding and then opening my son’s wallet. On finding it completely empty (luckily my son had given all his money to me) my son was allowed to pass.


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Talk more about shite you don’t know about.....Btw, the consumptive man asking for a passport bribe was all of 5’3 so, yeah, guess I had some white/adequate nutrition privilege, lol
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MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
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re: Egypt
Agree with Jordan- lively country and the tourist police are top notch. The lower classes don’t value women much (but will show respect to men) but you can avoid problems by sticking to resorts and having a good guide. I went to Petra with my mom and we joined an Italian couple for a walk around (very gracious of them- the man saw we were having trouble with vendors not taking a no and invited us to join them). I would definitely recommend Jordan and would go again.


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DoUrden
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re: Egypt
Jordan and diving will be on the trip, but Egypt will be part of it, I DGAF about the other stuff, I want to see the antiquities, I am pissed I didn't go when I was stationed in Bahrain and Sicily many many years ago.


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Jrv2damac
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re: Egypt
I went to Egypt in August 2016 by myself

Egypt was my 50th country, and I honestly went there thinking I would be blasé about the pyramids. I was still blown away.

I also went to Aswan, abu simbel, and the many places around Luxor

My only complaint about Egypt was how annoying merchants are. I would have them walk alongside me for 15 minutes selling me something





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Amadeo
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I honestly went there thinking I would be blasé about the pyramids. I was still blown away.

My exact experience.

I literally stood motionless for about two hours staring at them imagining myself standing on the same spot that Julius Caesar stood as he stared at something older to him than the Coliseum is to us today...by about a half a millennium. It was nearly impossible for me to wrap my mind around how old those structures actually are.


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pkloa
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re: Egypt
Apologies for the disjointed "review" below, I'm no travel blogger:

Pass up taxi offers to hotel unless they will match Uber price. First drivers wanted 500EGP, final one accepted 200EGP. Street food can taste good, not great sanitary conditions. Rule of thumb: If there are more flies than people, keep walking.

Misr Travel tour guide is very knowledgeable. Set your schedule for what you want to do or you'll be rushed through things. Only go to Khan El Khalili Bazaar to get hounded for tons of cheap shite. If you're not great with crowds, avoid it altogether. Egypt certainly does have cleanliness issues. Trash piles up until someone decides to burn it, and many have no issue littering. That's how over half the world's population lives, though.

One recommendation is to print out an Egyptian timeline before you go, to really grasp the scale of how long ago X was built, or Y conquered Z.

Favorite part of our trip was Saqqara and Dasshur. The pyramids don't have the size of Giza plateau, but fewer people and hieroglyphics on the walls inside pushed those areas way above.


DoUrden
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re: Egypt
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Apologies for the disjointed "review" below, I'm no travel blogge


Very good information, thank you!


Jrv2damac
Kansas Fan
Member since Mar 2004
29881 posts

re: Egypt
For street food, I ate kushari like once a day (national dish, mix of macaroni, rice, lentils, tomato sauce, chickpeas, spices) super cheap and enjoyable

If you’re around Luxor, take a day trip to temple of hathor. It still has hieroglyphics that have some color. I took this pic of the ceiling



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