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Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 5:49 pm to
We are headed to Taos on Christmas Day. Never been to Taos.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:18 pm to
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We are headed to Taos on Christmas Day. Never been to Taos.



They going to have enough snow down there?

So hints are kind of showing up for some snow out here mid month, but man I feel like I'm searching for positives.

This is going to get nerdy, deal with it.



The Madden-Julian oscillation ends up driving a lot of weather around the world, and here you can see what phase links up to precip in the west along with how connected to phase the precip record is.

The amplitude of the oscillation also matters (makes the impacts more notable the stronger it is).

It's been super weak amplitude and in decent phases for the last few weeks, leaving nothing to break the pattern that started mid-November.



Going into the start and middle of the month, we're going to move into phase 6/7 and pick up a little more of a kick too. Hopefully that will start to translate to the mid-latitudes and get that jet stream wavier to start pushing all the cold building over Alaska and NW Canada to push into the american rockies.



What looks to start the process is a tropical cyclone out in the WPac, gets recurved and donates some energy to the jet stream. Image below shows it, and over in America what the storm track is going to look like for the next week to week and a half.



Looks like maybe something early next week. Doesn't look like anything special, but any snow is helpful and this should deliver for all the resorts (except for maybe our NM resorts).



This is the way out in time, so we're going to take this with a grain of salt, but seeing troughing in the west/ridging in the east is what we're looking for to get some power down. Need some sustained cold and slow moving storms.

For the next 7-10 days though, warmer than normal and drier than normal should dominate the west and make opening terrain very slow going.



Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6531 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:02 pm to
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LSUfan4444


Did you use the ski school at Brighton?

Looking to ski somewhere in ‘22 with my family who has never skied before. 11 & 12 year old kids. I had Park City booked in ‘20 but Covid killed that. Looking for family friendly- things to do besides just skiing as the wife and kids may only ski a day or 2.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55648 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:05 am to
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Did you use the ski school at Brighton?


I did but we opted for a private lesson rather than a group lesson and I would definitely suggest that. We had an instructor names Dane and I can definitely recommend him for that 11/12 age group.

I think the half day school in a group setting was $`150 per person but the private lesson was 1/2 the time (since you got more engagement) and ended up cheaper ($300 for one person and $50 for every extra person = $400 total)

Before our lesson neither my daughter nor I had ever even put on ski boots before (outside of picking up our rental equip) and two days after our lesson we both felt comfortable to handling one of their greens (Mary Back) on the Majestic lift



Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6531 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:30 am to
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LSUfan4444


Awesome, thanks for the info. I haven't skied in 10 years or so and the rest of the fam has never done it. Much more interested in a private lesson rather than group setting.

Thanks again, I may be back with more questions once I start poking around for lodging, etc.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25225 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:41 pm to
I am headed to Park City 3 weeks from today. frick. Was also planning to do 2 days at Snowbasin and looking at their webcams... no white at all
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55648 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 5:20 pm to
We got like 30 minutes of snow the entire time I was there last week.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:14 pm to
Alta has snow, more than normal bc of their microclimate. It might be worth checking them out if we dont get a blockbuster into Utah before you go.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25225 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:07 am to
I have an Epic Season Pass so I am limited to Park City and Snowbasin. But if I absolutely have to I might bite the bullet and just get a pass for the other resorts
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
699 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:22 am to
Park City is supposed to get 24 inches next week per OpenSnow, you should be fine.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25225 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:02 am to
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Park City is supposed to get 24 inches next week per OpenSnow, you should be fine.



Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5727 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:25 am to
We went from “the system will split” to “two dumps in 4 days” in about 24 hours.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:36 am to
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Park City is supposed to get 24 inches next week per OpenSnow, you should be fine.


On that shortwave early next week?

That seems awfully aggressive.

Maybe its the big following trough that does it.

ETA: NVM, i see the potential looking at the overnight GFS. What a quick change of fortune. Would bring a stout surface low across the Rockies. That could blockbuster the resorts.

Then there will be a second storm to follow soon after.



Will be better than 10:1, probably 13-14:1.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8735 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:03 am to
What about for WA? Looks like I see a few 20-30s in that image
Posted by benoit_BayouBengals
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2562 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:09 am to
Hoping we have snow on the ground in Mid January in Heavenly.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:27 am to
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What about for WA? Looks like I see a few 20-30s in that image


Taken at face value, the GFS sends a sub 980 low at WA State before crossing the heart of the Rockies.

fricking nuclear in WA State high terrain. Ive got half a chubby thinking about it.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
934 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:31 pm to
Angel Fire just announced they are delaying opening until Dec 17th (for now) due to lack of snow and temperature inversions that are preventing snowmaking.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5727 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Will be better than 10:1, probably 13-14:1.


Would a 10:1 be better to build a dense base or will the 13:1 compact down?
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
699 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:16 pm to
OpenSnow says 60 inches for Baker this week and next. 40 inches for Timberline. I’m extremely jealous.

Looks like Tahoe is the only area not getting in on the party. Only 3 inches coming up for Palisades.

11 inches for Copper... I’m ready!
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:52 pm to
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Would a 10:1 be better to build a dense base or will the 13:1 compact down?


It compacts down and these ratios are so similar it doesnt matter anyway, and will vary by location. Im assuming a straight average across the region. 10:1 is generally too low for the west. Ill get into the nitty gritty when we get a day or two out when I can get at those high res model soundings. Or you can read OpenSnow, Im just practicing.
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