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Want to buy a beginners Gaming computer for my son.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:19 pm
He’s 10 and really into that nerd shite but I don’t know where to even begin. From what I gather gamers upgrade these things like gun nuts upgrade their AR-15s.
Is there a basic model that can be had for $5-700 that can be upgraded later?
Can I put controls on it so he can’t find midget porn?
Should I bite the bullet and go more expensive now?
Don’t people build them from scratch sometimes and if so how difficult expensive would that be?
You should know that I don’t know the difference between RAM and ROM before posting computer jargon please.
Is there a basic model that can be had for $5-700 that can be upgraded later?
Can I put controls on it so he can’t find midget porn?
Should I bite the bullet and go more expensive now?
Don’t people build them from scratch sometimes and if so how difficult expensive would that be?
You should know that I don’t know the difference between RAM and ROM before posting computer jargon please.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
He’s 10 and really into that nerd shite but I don’t know where to even begin. From what I gather gamers upgrade these things like gun nuts upgrade their AR-15s
I do not know anything about kids but 10 seems a little young for a true gaming PC.
Gamers upgrade computers faster than a gun nut with an AR15
quote:
Is there a basic model that can be had for $5-700 that can be upgraded later?
Budget Gaming PC
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Can I put controls on it so he can’t find midget porn?
Yes but why?

quote:
Should I bite the bullet and go more expensive now?
I would not, build the budget PC above see if he likes building systems. What you buy today willbe outdated in a year tops.
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Don’t people build them from scratch sometimes and if so how difficult expensive would that be?
Yes ... I have not built a PC from scratch in about 15 years. It is a great learning experience. I think you could build one in the range you have above, will not be top of the line but at 10 he should be good.
And after you and your son build the PC you will know the difference between RAM and ROM...

This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 8:04 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I built one for myself (Revit) and the kids for under $700. It runs good enough buy they mostly just use it for Minecraft.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 8:06 pm to sfdurst
Awesome!
I’d love to build one with him. I do so much with my older son because we have similar interests and I need something I can bond with my younger son over. I imagine if I buy the components in that link I can put it together with some googling and YouTubing?
I’d love to build one with him. I do so much with my older son because we have similar interests and I need something I can bond with my younger son over. I imagine if I buy the components in that link I can put it together with some googling and YouTubing?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 8:07 pm to junkfunky
My boy is mostly into Minecraft for now.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 8:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Minecraft doesn't require much. I went a little lighter on graphics and heavier on processing because of Revit but for mostly just gaming the linked build looks good. You'll end up right around that $700 mark unless you already have peripherals, monitor, and an operating software.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:18 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
I’d love to build one with him. I do so much with my older son because we have similar interests and I need something I can bond with my younger son over. I imagine if I buy the components in that link I can put it together with some googling and YouTubing?
It’s like building with Legos.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 9:27 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
We bought my almost 12 year old son this laptop from Costco for $699, after a $200 instant rebate. It isn't perfect but it should work for basic gaming
LINK
LINK
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:14 pm to wickowick
Pcpartpicker.com
Will help you price the same item over many different websites. Also helps you collect all the parts and makes sure you aren't forgetting anything.
Feel free to post a thread on the gaming board. There are a few posters there that are really up to speed on what's what in PC building. They can help you get the most bang for your buck.
I will also add that buying a prebuilt PC for gaming in the $500-$750 range is not a good idea. Usually corners are cut. You are much better of building and having fun with your son.
Will help you price the same item over many different websites. Also helps you collect all the parts and makes sure you aren't forgetting anything.
Feel free to post a thread on the gaming board. There are a few posters there that are really up to speed on what's what in PC building. They can help you get the most bang for your buck.
I will also add that buying a prebuilt PC for gaming in the $500-$750 range is not a good idea. Usually corners are cut. You are much better of building and having fun with your son.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:44 am to Taffeta
There is also reddit.com/r/buildapc
The posters there are pretty knowledgeable, though they tend to want to push the limit of any budget to the maximum lol
The posters there are pretty knowledgeable, though they tend to want to push the limit of any budget to the maximum lol
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
OP:
Core i5 : i5 newegg
248
8 GB RAM: GSkillRipjaw
104 or you can double for 139
100 GB SSD (optional)
1TB HDD: WD Caviar Blue
50 bucks. Not sure why the Caviar Blue has the same specs as the Caviar Black (Traditional Performance HDD)
Total so far is 402:
Need(s): MOBO , PSU , Graphics card
PSU: I personally prefer Corsair here but were shopping price sooo PSU EVGA Bronze
90 bucks. Fully modular and a Bronze rating.
Graphics Card: This is a pricey component. ASUS 1050 GTX STRIX
This is essentially 1/2 of a 1080...kinda.
185 bucks.
MOBO: This one is hard because it's like talking to 10 people who like trucks and you'll get a handful who like Chevy, Ford, and some who like Dodge. I prefer ASUS Mobo's.
ASUS ROG Maximus
150 bucks. It gets you all the cool stuff of today includinig M.2.
That brings you to 827 for pretty darn good peripherals.
All you need is a case which can be had for 50 to 150. Just make sure you buy a Full ATX Case.
If you have an existing keyboard and mouse you can buy a cheap one and wait for the kids birthday to buy a fancy one.
This will play Minecraft and grow with him as he gets into more demanding games.
For example as someone who takes it overboard for my workstation at home, this is my spec'd machine
CPU: 5930K (6 core 12 thread)
MOBO: ASUS X99 Sabertooth TUF
PSU: Corsair Gold 750W
RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 Quad Channel RAM
Graphics: ASUS 1080 GTX Strix 8GB GDDR5
Cooling: Corsair H100i
HDD: 1 x 512GB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro / 1 x 128GB SSD Samsung 840 Pro / 1 x 256GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO / 1 x 1 TB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM Drive
Case: HAF X 932
Keyboard/Mouse: Razer Chroma / Razer Naga Chroma
Core i5 : i5 newegg
248
8 GB RAM: GSkillRipjaw
104 or you can double for 139
100 GB SSD (optional)
1TB HDD: WD Caviar Blue
50 bucks. Not sure why the Caviar Blue has the same specs as the Caviar Black (Traditional Performance HDD)
Total so far is 402:
Need(s): MOBO , PSU , Graphics card
PSU: I personally prefer Corsair here but were shopping price sooo PSU EVGA Bronze
90 bucks. Fully modular and a Bronze rating.
Graphics Card: This is a pricey component. ASUS 1050 GTX STRIX
This is essentially 1/2 of a 1080...kinda.
185 bucks.
MOBO: This one is hard because it's like talking to 10 people who like trucks and you'll get a handful who like Chevy, Ford, and some who like Dodge. I prefer ASUS Mobo's.
ASUS ROG Maximus
150 bucks. It gets you all the cool stuff of today includinig M.2.
That brings you to 827 for pretty darn good peripherals.
All you need is a case which can be had for 50 to 150. Just make sure you buy a Full ATX Case.
If you have an existing keyboard and mouse you can buy a cheap one and wait for the kids birthday to buy a fancy one.
This will play Minecraft and grow with him as he gets into more demanding games.
For example as someone who takes it overboard for my workstation at home, this is my spec'd machine
CPU: 5930K (6 core 12 thread)
MOBO: ASUS X99 Sabertooth TUF
PSU: Corsair Gold 750W
RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 Quad Channel RAM
Graphics: ASUS 1080 GTX Strix 8GB GDDR5
Cooling: Corsair H100i
HDD: 1 x 512GB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro / 1 x 128GB SSD Samsung 840 Pro / 1 x 256GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO / 1 x 1 TB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM Drive
Case: HAF X 932
Keyboard/Mouse: Razer Chroma / Razer Naga Chroma
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:33 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Yes, you can get a ton of info from Google.
Instructables steps to build a PC
Most of the parts and connections only go in one space.
Instructables steps to build a PC
Most of the parts and connections only go in one space.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 8:36 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:04 am to 50_Tiger
That machine would use like 300w of power at full load, so a 750w is completely unnecessary.
Also that 7600k is pretty shitty value. I would go with one of the cheaper ryzens for budget option
Also that 7600k is pretty shitty value. I would go with one of the cheaper ryzens for budget option
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:13 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
his one is hard because it's like talking to 10 people who like trucks and you'll get a handful who like Chevy, Ford, and some who like Dodge. I prefer ASUS Mobo's.
I would concur with the ASUS recommendation.
I would also like to recommend AMD over Intel Processors.
If you deviate from the lists in the thread, you need to note that your motherboard, CPU and RAM need to be compatible (not by brand but by type).
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:15 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
Also that 7600k is pretty shitty value. I would go with one of the cheaper ryzens for budget option
LOL
LINK /
~60 dollars cheaper and better then the 1600/1700 Ryzen at everything.
Try Again.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:17 am to sfdurst
quote:
If you deviate from the lists in the thread, you need to note that your motherboard, CPU and RAM need to be compatible (not by brand but by type).
Very important.
Socket Type / Chipset / and Channel Type for RAM must all match.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:44 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
LOL
LINK /
~60 dollars cheaper and better then the 1600/1700 Ryzen at everything.
Try Again.

If you're going with a budget option, the Ryzen 3 1300x is a vastly superior option since it performs slightly worse, but over $100 cheaper (not even including the cheaper motherboard purchase).
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
This build is going to perform a lot better than the build posted earlier, for $200+ cheaper (and includes case and SSD)
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $611.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-30 10:51 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card ($204.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $611.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-30 10:51 EST-0500
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:57 am to bluebarracuda
LOL so you want the OP to have to build another machine in ~3 years, buy the cheap shite.
The 1300x isn't in the same fricking class as the 7600k.
CPU bench
And another
HWbench
And another one
CPU monkey
Go ahead and buy the cheap shite.
The 1300x isn't in the same fricking class as the 7600k.
CPU bench
And another
HWbench
And another one
CPU monkey
Go ahead and buy the cheap shite.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:11 am to 50_Tiger
I'm glad OP wants a PC for synthetic benchmarks and hardware encoding!!!
LinusTechTips videos are 99% annoying, but at least he gets great raw performance numbers. The 1300x would sit right above the 1200x in most of these benches

LinusTechTips videos are 99% annoying, but at least he gets great raw performance numbers. The 1300x would sit right above the 1200x in most of these benches



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