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jmorr34
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Video editing for beginners
Our company is looking to put together some internal training videos. Want it to look professional and well put together.

1 - what hardware will we need for recording? GoPro? Newer Cell phone work?
2 - what software is user friendly for editing and can be self taught?

Thank you.


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re: Video editing for beginners
Order a subscription to skillshare

It is good stuff


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TigerinATL
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re: Video editing for beginners
Adobe Premier Elements is a "dumbed down" version of Adobe Premier aimed at consumers. It's reasonably priced and probably a good place to start as far as editing goes. To make it look professional the biggest keys are probably going to be good lighting, equipment like tripods to steady the camera, and planning your video out in advance.


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The Next
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re: Video editing for beginners
We recently did the same thing for the same reason. In all we probably came out spending a little over $6k for all our equipment.

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biggest keys are probably going to be good lighting, equipment like tripods to steady the camera, and planning your video out in advance.


This. This. THIS. THHHIIISSS!!!!

Most people don't realize how much pre-production goes into a good quality video. The more you pre-plan, the less work you have to do once you start shooting and editing.

As for equipment, a good cell phone will "work" at the outset but probably won't be a good long-term solution for you. If this is something you will be doing a lot of, consider a good mirrorless camera and a decent lens. We ended up going with a Sony a6400 and it has been great for the price. Also, look at getting a pair of lights and a background with stands unless you have a good looking wall to use. B&H Photo is probably going to be your best bet in getting all the stuff together. You can find it on Amazon for a little cheaper but B&H's service is worth the extra money you'll spend.

You'll eventually need a good PC or Mac. You'll be able to get by with a pretty powerful off-the-shelf model as you are learning but you'll need something more specialized before long. You'll be looking at at least $1500 but be prepared to spend easily over $2k. Google "best computer for video editing" or check out CG Director for a good overview of the components you will need to consider and they have a PC Builder that will guide you through it.

Any software that you can be self taught will likely not give you the professional results you really want. Adobe Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve are going to be the 2 you really want to look into. Getting an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription will give you access to all their other apps which you will be able to use in your business. Resolve is free yet professional grade. Both have their positives and negatives so it will be a personal preference thing.

Whichever one you choose, there are a ton of YouTube channels with great tutorials. For Premiere Pro, search for Cinecom.net. The guys are really quirky but they have good stuff. For Resolve, look for Casey Faris. They both also offer paid courses you can take to learn even more.

Good luck!


wheelr
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re: Video editing for beginners
The Next's post is spot on.

Another avenue for good tutorials is Lynda.com. I get free access via the public library.

A professional look will require a professional, or money for equipment and time learning. You're equipment needs will also depend on what you are filming. Static shots in an office? Video in the field? There's a wide range of camera types, camera supports, lights and audio for different situations.



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drdoct
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re: Video editing for beginners
Go buy a Red Helium 8k with a 50mm Zeiss prime.

Next cry.

I don't feel like cell phones give good video quality. Someone has to have a dslr on hand to film with. That will give you a much better picture. I use shotcut but in all reality you can just use the windows movie editor if you have something not that complicated.

Or you can have some Apple savy person just do it all on their phone. According to their commercials it's completely possible.


jmorr34
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re: Video editing for beginners
Thank you for all of the responses so far. That Sony a6400 is definitely within budget. Are there specific lenses we should consider buying as well?


The Next
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re: Video editing for beginners
We've been doing just fine with the lens that came with the camera but it's more geared to photo. I'm looking to get the wide-angle lens that is highly recommended for video (Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS (SEL1018) APS-C Lens) LINK

If you are going to be doing any outdoor shooting, get some UV filters that fit on the lenses as well.


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drdoct
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re: Video editing for beginners
How long do plan on doing these videos?

The reason I ask is you could get them all ready to shoot and then rent a good setup. Better would be to hire someone who does wedding videography and get them to shoot a few days worth.


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Really good video cones from fine cinematography, understanding light, understanding exposure and lenses. For example, did you know that good video lenses are measured in T-stops, not F-stops. To maintain even exposure when shooting a close up and a wide angle shot of the same scene, the exact same T-stop in a narrow field of view lens and a wide field of view lens, both lenses will provide the exact same amount of light. Doesn't matter if it's a Zeiss, Canon, Sony or Fujinon lens. These are called prime lenses. They are not cheap. Can't do that with F-stop lenses, where the F-stop ratings are subjective to the lens and manufacturer. A quality video shot with T-stop lenses will look even and uniform. Good production companies use these lenses. Wanna-be producers use F-stop lenses or ENG (electronic news gathering) camcorders.


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HubbaBubba
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Go buy a Red Helium 8k with a 50mm Zeiss prime.

Horrible advice. A Canon C300 or C500 is just fine as frogs hair and won't have to break the bank.


robchand58
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re: Video editing for beginners
And don't forget the audio. For a good video, the audio has to be crisp and clear. The on-camera mics on any recording device won't do. Invest in some good mics, and a Beachtek or other type appliance to get that good sound into the camera.


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drdoct
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Horrible advice.


It was a joke


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wheelr
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re: Video editing for beginners
I think I want the new FX6 that was released today.

I just need to snag some projects like the OP has to pay for it.


drdoct
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I think I want the new FX6 that was released today.


It looks really nice, but total overkill for me. In fact, I'm trying to justify an A7S3 over my S2. Right now, I don't shoot in 4k but might if I could in 60-120fps. I just can't stand how 30fps looked in 4k on my camera. So I could get another camera or almost 2 lenses. IMO, you can never have enough lenses.


HubbaBubba
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looks really nice, but total overkill for me. In fact, I'm trying to justify an A7S3 over my S2. Right now, I don't shoot in 4k but might if I could in 60-120fps. I just can't stand how 30fps looked in 4k on my camera. So I could get another camera or almost 2 lenses. IMO, you can never have enough lenses.
Right. Canon was running a sale last week and I picked up a refurbished RF 24mm-240mm lens for my R5 at only $299. Saved $600 off the cost of new.


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DJNOS1978
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re: Video editing for beginners
I bought a Panasonic LUMIX. It is a $800 camera and I got the plug in power source for it so I don't have to worry about batteries. Camera
With cameras it is all about the lens though. The lights make a massive difference though.

I also bought 4 soft box lights with tripods. 2 was enough but just in case. lol lights

For sound recording I bought (2) wireless packs. These are pricy. Sound

For the editing I use https://www.openshot.org/. It is free and simple.

For audio editing I use Audacity

I also do overhead shots with WEBcam


My youtube channel is YOUtube

Note: I am not a professional. I have a lot to learn about the camera settings and video editing. This camera is amazing when the settings are taken correctly. I have not nailed these down yet. But I am learning and you can see the difference from the first videos to the most recent.

Now the Iphones take amazing footage now. But I would recommend at least getting the audio stuff.



wheelr
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re: Video editing for beginners
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It looks really nice, but total overkill for me. In fact, I'm trying to justify an A7S3 over my S2. Right now, I don't shoot in 4k but might if I could in 60-120fps. I just can't stand how 30fps looked in 4k on my camera. So I could get another camera or almost 2 lenses. IMO, you can never have enough lenses.



It is probably overkill for me too but I love having all of the buttons/manual controls versus in-menu settings. The built-in ND filter is also a big selling point, among a few other things.

As for lenses, my issue is the opposite. I have a collection of Nikon AIS primes but I can't find the ideal camera to use them on. I was looking at something like the Zcam M4 with an adapter, but the metabones speed booster says my 20mm lens is incompatible. I also own an adapter that has some play in it which could be a problem when trying to accurately pull focus. I've even looked into possibly getting them converted by someone like Duclos Lenses.

As for 4k, I want it for the flexibility in post (vfx, chroma keying, stabilization). Otherwise most of my final output would be 1080. The downside is you need a ton of storage for hq 4k or 6k. The costs keep adding up.


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tigerpawl
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re: Video editing for beginners
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biggest keys are probably going to be good lighting, equipment like tripods to steady the camera, and planning your video out in advance.
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This. This. THIS. THHHIIISSS!!!!

I'm surprised you left out SOUND. There's an old saying in the video business: "A good video is at least half audio". Suspend a shotgun microphone over the subject's head no further than 1 foot, point it directly at their mouth, and record with an external recording device (Zoom, etc), then sync in your editing app.

Crappy echoey sound can ruin the whole thing!! Record in a room with as much sound absorbing material as possible. If you recording ONLY the instructor's voice, I highly recommend doing it in a carpeted closet with lots of clothes.


The Next
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re: Video editing for beginners
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I'm surprised you left out SOUND.


Me too.

Our videos are generally voiced over instead of live sound so I guess it wasn't as high on my list for equipment. And I'm more of a sound guy than a video guy. I do agree that sound is a major part of a good, quality video. It is a little tricky, though. The average person won't really notice the difference between good, really good, and great audio but bad audio will stick out like a sore thumb.

Another thing I just thought of is a subscription to a digital asset service. I'm partial to StoryBlocks.com but have used Envato Elements in the past and was very happy. You'll find lots of stock videos and animations to use in your productions as well as tons of royalty-free music and sound effects. It will also cover the licensing to use the music in your videos so YouTube won't flag them for copyrighted content.


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