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Ubiquiti G4 Pro and Protect Config

Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 10:52 am
So just installed first Ubiquiti camera (G4 Pro) on friend's Ubiquiti network. Got it initially adopted and configured but not in the manner I was expecting. I wasn't sure if there were some nuances that are different than most. So I ask for any inputs based on the situation.

Current:
G4 plugged into Switch and "LAN" port profile assigned. Able to adopt in Protect and it's working/configured

Preferred:
Want G4 added to IoT network with option of static IP if possible like any other devices. Does this need to be done via the Camera GUI instead of Switch Port Profile and Device settings in Network?

I am an hour away from the device so wanted to avoid any setting changes that may require touch maintenance on it.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 10:58 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:12 am to
I haven't tried it myself, but I found this which might help you.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:36 am to
Thanks. I did see that earlier and was holding back from any additional rules changes until I got some possible feedback. I will give it a check and see what we find.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 2:45 pm to
So i added the firewall rules but not sure if they were needed or not because i already had the rule for LAN to IoT in place. However, I did finally catch the last paragraph the third time i read that post Kork linked...let camera adopt, change Port Profile for network assignment, reboot camera, add static IP if needed. All worked fine and was able to kill PoE to help the camera reboot process doing this remotely.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 3:29 pm to
That's awesome.

Ubiquiti gets a lot of shite for their "expensive" cameras (and the G4 Pro is definitely not cheap!), but I'll be damned if you can find a cctv system that is easier to use and manage, even remotely.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:58 pm to
Man, i know our discussions awhile back on the reolinks and ubiquiti…that G4 Pro is fricking impressive! Glad buddy bought it for his farm as my freelance project…lol

The reolink has been fine for me as the 5mp upgrades to the older 2mp ones i had on front of house, but there’s some minor nuances im dealing with as the software is running on a desktop and saving to older NAS.

Actually looking at biting the bullet and going with new Synology or QNAP with at least 16-24TB…funny how the list of “wants” grows so quickly
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

G4 Pro is fricking impressive



I’m having the “good enough” vs “want” battle with these.

I have a corner lot, but I have trees that would obscure several views, and I basically only have an alley between each of my neighbors. So I think I need three or maybe four views in addition to my 2 doorbells (unifi g4. I can’t express enough how much I love these things now that they both chime thanks to an RMA)
1) under front porch pointed at the front door (“down the porch” view that shows the front door and the “escape” since the doorbell captures the approach). Given that there is a doorbell here, I may settle for a plain g4 bullet or g3 flex. I actually have fascia here that wouldn’t be hard to mount to/through
2/3) backyard. I can cover basically everything with one camera unless I want to add an under-porch view of the back door. I’m +/- on this as there would be quite a bit of motion from us hanging out back there. Could you sneak through the alley and under the back porch with how I’m planning this? Not without being caught on the doorbell cam. But my house isn’t Fort Knox. And I could easily sacrifice this view.
4) down the driveway- I have a short driveway. It’s 3 cars wide and only one car in length. One of the doorbell cams catches the closest parking spot. Still, I think a g4 pro here and under the front porch are useful for face definition, should their need ever arise.

The other this is that these are going to be mounted onto vented soffit. From the attic, it would be difficult to have meaningful access, but I have studs out to the end of it and could mount on the “corner” made by the two studs pretty easily. These are two- screw mount cameras, right? Can anyone explain/expand on the mount’s rear-opening’s width? Ie- rather than “cornering” on two studs, if both screws went into the same 2x4, is there enough room for an Ethernet cable to pass? If I were really lazy, is there enough room to pass a pre-terminated cat5e through that area?



Alternatively, I’m considering putting a couple of g3 flex here as they’re cheap as hell and seem available through many places online even though they’re out of stock from ubiquiti. There was a hint or two at a g4 flex, and the mount would be easier for me (I could drop a conduit mount from the attic easier than I could toenail a cross-stud from the top. And I could toenail a cross stud from the bottom if I pulled the perforated fascia from the soffit but, again…laziness). I would assume a g4 flex would be the same footprint (the hint was the skins fitting the g4, dropped about a year ago. Could have been a typo), and then the 3 could be converted to an in-garage-at-door and then desktop-mount indoor cameras if I ever wanted to upgrade IF the g4 flex ever comes into existence



Thoughts other than, “you’re an insane person?”

Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:48 am to
I have 2 small angles of area where i'm lack full 360 degree coverage, and that's a risk i'm willing to take. Ironically, just a couple nights ago someone was snooping around back door of the neighbor that lives behind us and over one. I couldn't see shite from that distance on the 2mp camera i have looking that way. Fortunately neighbor had camera underneath the roof of back porch and dummy ended up looking right into the camera when he left. I have a camera on my front porch that you wouldn't know was there until it was too late, plus have the doorbell to track the approach (like you).

If i wasn't concerned about cost then i'd replace all my current older cameras with ubiquiti ones. See the quick start guide for the G4 Pro https://dl.ubnt.com/guides/unifivideo/UVC-G4-PRO_QSG.pdf for info on setup. Yes there's enough space for you to run already terminated cable through mount, but the water-seal grommet may be testy with that. My buddy's soffit was just the siding material so i had to add a piece of wood (rig job) to allow for solid mount surface so soffit didn't sag and mess up angle of view. For my initial installs of my cameras, i made sure to find the 2x4s in the soffit to get 2 of 3 screws in for each mount.

I would think you could get creative with a little cutting and smaller/thinner piece of wood to be inserted inside the fascia/soffit area...
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1423 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:29 am to
Anyone have the UniFi Viewport? I'm planning my UniFi camera setup now and I'm looking at one of these to monitor easily from a TV/monitor.

I know you can DIY with a RPi but the Viewport just makes it so easy.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

See the quick start guide for the G4 Pro


I have seen it- they don't give measurements other than the screw size unfortunately, and the entire width of the mount (not the recess/ inner diameter). I'm trying to find the internal diameter of the hole in the mount to see how much play there is when centered on a 2x4 so I don't have to pull it and put another piece of wood in there
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

i made sure to find the 2x4s in the soffit to get 2 of 3 screws in for each mount.
Pretty sure all the Ubiquiti bullet mounts have only 2 screws, so I think Doc's question is can you get both screws in wood and offset the mount enough to still allow the cable to pass through.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:25 pm to
I don't have one on hand to measure right now, but the ID of the mount is pretty small, just barely large enough for an RJ45 to pass through. It is horn-shaped, though, so there is a little bit of room before it shrinks down, but I don't think you will be able to get a plug past the wood without carving it out a bit at least. You can probably get a cable through and terminate afterwards, though.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:30 pm to
I appreciate the effort- that info is good enough. Don't waste time measuring on my account!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 12:42 pm to
Honestly it's something that should be burned in my memory.


If it was me, and if I want to avoid using a junction box (which I do avoid when possible for the cleaner look), I would put a 3/4" bit on an angle and nip the corner of the 2x4. Then I could get both screws in solid wood and still pass an rj45 through the hole.

That's one thing I like about the UI cams (and some of the other higher end brands offer the same), is they have a port rather than a pigtail like almost all of the chinese cameras have. You need about a 1" hole to fit the pigtail's weather seal through vs. the 3/4" or smaller hole for an rj45 alone. One inch vs 3/4 doesn't sound like much, but it's twice as big a hole. Probably doesn't matter at all, at least not most of the time, but I still like putting the bare minimum size hole possible.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure all the Ubiquiti bullet mounts have only 2 screws, so I think Doc's question is can you get both screws in wood and offset the mount enough to still allow the cable to pass through.


yeah, thoughts in my brain didn't make it to the post...but info you had on both posts seems totally accurate.

a terminated cable will passthrough the area in mount and into the camera compartment. ask me how i know, well i pulled cable through and terminated, then had to back it out to add the piece of scrap wood, then run it back through again. so should be just fine...lol
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:42 pm to
you have a good tutorial on how i should set up my network with IoTs and NoTs, and not now but soon to have cameras? I know our buddy Hookup has a recent one. not sure how much i want to follow his with some of his unreasonable assumptions.

and this post means i got my UDM-Pro and wifi6 LR's in.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1505 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:40 pm to
that's awesome to hear! I did a lot of googling when i went downt the rabbit hole for network segmentation, but there's some great guides on ubiquiti support. I have a decent understanding of networking but not the hands-on/CLI stuff like CCNA/CCNP...but understanding those basics make it pretty easy and customizable.

I'm torn right now cause i have a usg2+ and installed the UDM-Pro for buddy...i want a UDMP and 24port POE switch to replace my USG and 2 8port switches...i also "want" an updated and expanded NAS...so decisions decisions...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

you have a good tutorial on how i should set up my network with IoTs and NoTs, and not now but soon to have cameras? I know our buddy Hookup has a recent one. not sure how much i want to follow his with some of his unreasonable assumptions.
I'm not a network pro, so he is more schooled on it than I am. He may be biased and he may make poor hardware choices and recs, but I think he's pretty solid as far as networking, firewalls, and gadgetry.
quote:

and this post means i got my UDM-Pro and wifi6 LR's in.
Nice! Got it hooked up yet? I'm really curious how the 6LR's perform. I have 1 old UAP and 1 ac-lite covering every bit of 3,400sqft plus about 100' reach outdoors, I'd imagine yours will blow the doors off that.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18242 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I'm really curious how the 6LR's perform.


Better off waiting for the Pro to come out since the Long Range is pretty useless and the Pro will be much better spec'd
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 4:09 pm to
1 ap would be plenty for my house..... so im going to have to turn these things way down to get devices to move APs when in another part of the house. But ill mainly use it to separate individual stationary devices.
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