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The evolution of Point and Shoot cameras

Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48769 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:58 am
Just when I thought Point-and-Shoot cameras were dead, Canon comes out with this handy little beauty, the SX-740HS with a 20.3Mp sensor, 4K video at 30fps and a 40X optical zoom (equivalent to 24mm to 960mm zoom lens).

Only $399 retail. Think I'll get one for my kids and wife to use. My 5D Mark IV intimidates them.

Press release

YouTube (annoying audio, though)
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:59 am to
how does this compare to a fairly high end phone..serious question
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:02 am to
About damn time

But really, who made that YouTube video?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48769 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:13 am to
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how does this compare to a fairly high end phone..serious question

Start with Optical Zoom over digital zoom. Storage capacity is much higher. Good Boca. 10 frames per second continuous picture shooting is really good. Disappointing that 4K 60fps isn't available, but it's a $399 camera, so not a big deal.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14000 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:28 am to
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Only $399 retail.


Dead In The Water.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:38 am to
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Dead In The Water.



I guess that was kind of my question..Who would pay $400 for essentially a bulky phone on top of carrying a bulky phone that takes almost equivalent pictures

I'd honestly like to see it compared to some phones pictures
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48769 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 1:17 pm to
I think you can boil it down to what you give up with a phone. Most high quality phones max out at 27mm optical, although iPhone X has both a 28mm and 56mm lens. After that, it's noisy digital zoom. On this PAS camera it can extend to almost 1000mm optical focal length and macro shooting as close as 0.4". I don't believe you can do that with a phone, yet.

So I suppose it's what you're willing to live with and if you are the creative type that wants close up shots from a distance that are sharp with all the resolution, or are okay with compromising on quality.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 1:18 pm to
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So I suppose it's what you're willing to live with and if you are the creative type that wants close up shots from a distance that are sharp with all the resolution, or are okay with compromising on quality.



I'd rather have a great camera with cell service for emails/text
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 1:19 pm to
FWIW the Sony RX100 line has been awesome for a while, albeit at a higher price than that
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37505 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:01 pm to
What he's saying in a nice way is that the camera in your phone doesn't compare favorably at all to the camera he posted. It's vastly superior in every way that matters.

It's a camera. It's made to take great pictures. People that use cameras like that don't give a shite whether it can send and receive an email.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:07 pm to
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People that use cameras like that don't give a shite whether it can send and receive an email.




A big part of the video seems to revolve around the way it is easily connectable..I get what OP is saying, but the target audience isn't anyone in that video
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48769 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:22 pm to
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I'd rather have a great camera with cell service for emails/text
So basically, you entered the thread with no intent other than to make your usual negatively charged comments. Obviously, you aren't their target customer, but I get that you want it all, anyway.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:27 pm to
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So basically, you entered the thread with no intent other than to make your usual negatively charged comments. Obviously, you aren't their target customer, but I get that you want it all, anyway.


apologies..welcome to 2018 where people don't want to carry a phone and a camera..I simply asked what the actual use would be these days and how it compared..I'd be willing to bet you couldn't pick between a real camera and a cell cameras picks these days
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47263 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:15 pm to
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I'd be willing to bet you couldn't pick between a real camera and a cell cameras picks these days


I think most people would be able to tell if you took pictures of the same thing. Especially in low light or from a distance

Sure cell phone cameras are good enough, but no cellphone is coming close in quality. It's a physical size problem that cellphones can't solve without being larger.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:22 pm to






Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40132 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:21 pm to
Nice pictures.

Now without moving your shooting location, zoom in on a tree branch with your cell phone.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:59 pm to
I'm all about video with the added bonus of good photos.
Point and shoots have been there for a while but not at this price point. I'm considering getting this as a backup to my a7s2 since my backup now is only 1080p.
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