re: Sunbird promising iMessage for android

I still can't believe Apple let's their billion dollar baby to be pimped out like this. It's a huge reason in the US that people stick to iPhones whether you agree with it or not.

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I think the better question is how did Google not have a better messaging strategy for the last decade plus to make a product that could have ended this rivalry? On top of that most of these other messaging apps like Facebook Messenger would probably be niche apps if Google had come up with a better messaging client built in to Android. But like most Google products, they came out with a million different versions and kept switching and killing which app was the app.

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I used Android phones for about a decade, and this is spot on.

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Thinking about this app as we're trying to send Christmas pics and videos tonight. If i make an apple ID just for this app since i have no Apple products, is there really a downside?

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As long as you are sending nothing you care about or if the people you are talking to don’t give a shite who has y’all messages, not really. That iCloud account I would consider hacked and not do anything with it. I would tie a throwaway email to it as well.

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can you link to some of this research you have found?

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I think it’s based on giving any amount of access to your iCloud account to a third party. If they don’t have access, this doesn’t work. It’s possible that they respect your privacy and don’t break the encryption for the sake of reading what’s inside. If that’s the case, they’ll still be a huge target for a third party to hack and have access to messages.

But it isn’t exactly possible to have end to end encryption without breaking it in the middle on their server. If it were, their server wouldn’t need to exist.


But the questions of:
1) will they read the messages
2) will they sell data from the messages
3) will they attempt to reverse into iCloud accounts

are all fair to ask. And I very much fall on the side of, “yeah. They’re going to sell a lot of stuff.”

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Dam, can you link to some of this research you have found? I’m genuinely curious because everything they are claiming is they don’t have access to any of your data and it’s all e2e encrypted

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Yeah they’re own encryption, which doesn’t really mean anything. They have to setup some kind Apple device server for this to work on their end like you would do to use blue bubbles or airmessage, be it real Apple devices or some kind of hackintosh setup. They haven’t found some new interesting way to get into iMessage, they are just replicating what others have done where you don’t have to do the server setup on your own end. This is why Apple may not be able to do anything about it unless they restrict their own devices from iMessage. I guess they could start blocking their servers from Apple servers in an endless game of cat and mouse.

I just googled it and found other places where people were discussing how they were accomplishing it.

Definitely worth trying out, just don’t be stupid enough to put an account into it that you care about. For Android people, this isn’t really something they have to worry about as much.

How is testing going?

Is it improving at all Fn?

Anyone else gotten into alpha testing? If so how is it going?

Haven’t seen any updates in a couple months