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re: SONOS finally releasing soundbar with HDMI?

Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:46 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:46 am to
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I wanna be the user that buys this but guess they're going for new consumers to the Sonos family?!


yep. they are failing to realize most people with sonos products probably have multiple dots or google home devices already.

essentially they're adding
- airplay support
- hdmi
- voice

nothing revolutionary at all except you'll get to choose who provides your voice control (likely google & amazon & maybe siri later)
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:46 am to
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I think what he was saying is the only home theater setup that Sonos offers right now is through the playbar/playbase and specifically connected rear channels/sub. a connect amp only has two channels, and Sonos only supports 5.1 (though the aforementioned setup) with 3 of those channels built within the playbar/playbase. 7.1 isn't supported and atmos definitely isnt supported.

Oh, well, agreed. I misstated then if I said anything other than that.

Now, if you tell me that this new Playbar can do the front right, middle and left AND can be used with a receiver or other equipment. Now THAT might entice me to buy the new playbar.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 11:06 am to
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Dolby Digital, which is the best Sonos can do at the moment with their playbar and surrounds (whether it be 2x Play1s or with the Connect:AMP


So you have a $400 Connect amp set up as surround and not another zone ? Where are your speakers located ?
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 11:37 am to
I have the Connect:AMP wired to my 4 in ceiling speakers. Cross wired or double wired or whatever you wanna call it.
2x reds to 1 red input and 2x blacks to 1 black input.

The Sonos app then lets you set the amp to play as the rears. 2 of my speakers are maybe 5 feet in front of the sofa (overheard of course) and the other 2 are maybe 5 feet behind the sofa.
The alternative (actually main) setup would be to use 2x play:1s as rears. I've tried this too but prefer the overhead sound than just the 2x rears.

ETA: Which leads to my hope that this new playbar will work with a receiver, in which case I could buy the new playbar and wire my in ceiling speakers to receiver and then maybe also use my 2x Play:1s as rears (or any speakers). Basically, if the new playbar would be capable of Sonos and receivers with HDMI In/Out and ARC, that'd be worthy of my purchase.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 11:56 am to
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The Sonos app then lets you set the amp to play as the rears. 2 of my speakers are maybe 5 feet in front of the sofa (overheard of course) and the other 2 are maybe 5 feet behind the sofa.
The alternative (actually main) setup would be to use 2x play:1s as rears. I've tried this too but prefer the overhead sound than just the 2x rears.


I know how Sonos works. Were the speakers that are in the ceiling in front of you part of a previous system ? Surround speakers should not be in front of you. Speaker placement is important.


Also for all the Sonos knights you spent more money on an amp for surround speakers than what it cost for a nice AVR with a second powered zone. That's crazy.


quote:

new playbar will work with a receiver,


It's not going to. You should have just bought a passive sound bar for a fraction of the price. You could have even got one that doesn't left/center/right.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Were the speakers that are in the ceiling in front of you part of a previous system ?

Yea, they were there when we bought our house. It is what it is and I'm not that loaded to spend the money to redo them. If it were my man-cave, sure, I'm all in. But it's our living room and for the last 2 years I've watched more Disney movies than anything that requires GREAT surround sound.
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Also for all the Sonos knights you spent more money on an amp for surround speakers than what it cost for a nice AVR with a second powered zone. That's crazy.

Yes, maybe. But I got mine for simplicity. My wife can easily control everything from her phone and whether I like it or not, she lives on the thing.
Nag free products are WELL worth their price, at least in my household.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86767 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Also for all the Sonos knights you spent more money on an amp for surround speakers than what it cost for a nice AVR with a second powered zone.


only people who already have wired speakers they want to reuse.

quit generalizing.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 1:11 pm to
TigerWise gets so defensive and angry when it comes to Sonos.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 1:38 pm to
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quit generalizing.


coming from you. And I'm glad you finally brought up the Airplay integration I know that's big news for you. There is already a Siri work around.

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TigerWise gets so defensive and angry when it comes to Sonos.


I like Sonos. It sells itself. I just don't think it's the best solution for most applications. Plus it's really expensive for what it is which makes it ironic the biggest cheapo here is it's top cheerleader. The minute somebody ask for audio advice here the thread is bombarded with

SONOS
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before even knowing the scope of the application.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 1:39 pm to
haha, fair enough.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86767 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 2:16 pm to
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the biggest cheapo here is it's top cheerleader.


you still mad i've picked up almost my entire sonos system for pennies on the dollar on craiglist?
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
902 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 2:30 pm to
pissed I bought a play 1 yesterday on ebay for 95. Wouldn't have been available today...but that 15% off coupon would have been nice.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 2:38 pm to
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still mad i've picked up almost my entire sonos system for pennies on the dollar on craiglist?


It keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in months
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14000 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:10 pm to
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still mad i've picked up almost my entire sonos system for pennies on the dollar on craiglist?
It keeps me up at night. I haven't slept in months


I love yalls little lovers spat
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86767 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 3:23 am to
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I love yalls little lovers spat


tigerwise keeps throwing around the 'expensive' term when he knows a little patience can get you whatever you want without paying close to retail.
Posted by LSU Delirium
Member since Aug 2013
478 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 8:31 pm to
So I have been waiting for a good deal on IFTTT for a sound bar. Should I plan on getting this new model or continue looking for a good deal on the old version?

This will be my first Sonos product and I don't have any other sound system components. The sound bar will go under my new TV (LG OLED-C7P) and I'll be adding speakers around the house/outside.
This post was edited on 5/5/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted by BooneTrails
Member since Jan 2013
1187 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:29 am to
I would get a deal on the old one and put the saved money towards the sub.

The sub makes all the difference in the world.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:34 am to
Yeah, you got to have the sub.

Glad Sonos might be figuring out what Bose already knows, you need HDMI. Hopefully it's 4K.
Posted by BooneTrails
Member since Jan 2013
1187 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:17 pm to
I’ll sell you my old one once the new one is released ;)
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
902 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:14 pm to
SUB was the single best Sonos addition to my house.
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