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PROXMOX!!!
Posted on 7/10/26 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 4:53 pm
I'm going for it baws. 32gb dell 3660 with a i7-12700 and 2tb NVMe.
Plex and HA. frick Microsoft. I'll run Windows 11 in a VM on it..maybe
ETA it's on its way
Plex and HA. frick Microsoft. I'll run Windows 11 in a VM on it..maybe
ETA it's on its way
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 4:55 pm
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 5:15 pm to CAD703X
Don’t do it. Black hole. You’ll be stuck. ZFS sucks for high throughput. Took me 6 months to eventually escape.
Just use Debian.
Just use Debian.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 5:19 pm to CAD703X
I knew Dallaswho would shite on it.
I love it. Have been running it for years. Came from Truenas
I love it. Have been running it for years. Came from Truenas
Posted on 7/10/26 at 5:21 pm to Vrai
Frigate recommends against it too. The only saving grace is home assistant is almost perfect on it but they you have to speak BSD to ssh to it instead of just having it in your container directory.
Trixie handles everything and more just fine. Would recommend a 255H or 258v but not if you have spinners. Is the 12700 so you can use cheaper ddr4?
Trixie handles everything and more just fine. Would recommend a 255H or 258v but not if you have spinners. Is the 12700 so you can use cheaper ddr4?
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 5:51 pm to Vrai
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I knew Dallaswho would shite on it.
Yep
CAD, I run frigate on Proxmox with no issues. Even with passing through a Coral TPU.
I run 13900t CPUs. Use the iGPU for Plex transcoding
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 5:56 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
CAD, I run frigate on Proxmox with no issues. Even with passing through a Coral TPU.
Same.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 6:03 pm to Dallaswho
quote:I'm thinking of spinning up a windows 11 VM on it and doing everything there since I love notepad++
Frigate recommends against it too. The only saving grace is home assistant is almost perfect on it but they you have to speak BSD to ssh to it instead of just having it in your container directory.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 6:09 pm to CAD703X
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This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 6:09 pm to CAD703X
This is my cringe thread.
LINK
Debian and done. Triple the encode/decode. H.266 support. 10x the INT8 or FP16 AI. 2x the MBW. 1/4x the power.
Edit 1.5x transcode forgot higher end desktop chips 12gen have dual transcode pipes.
6-7 years from now it’ll make a great router with dual multigig NICs. You can do proper NPTv6.
I don’t mean to be a disciple but see the light.
LINK
Debian and done. Triple the encode/decode. H.266 support. 10x the INT8 or FP16 AI. 2x the MBW. 1/4x the power.
Edit 1.5x transcode forgot higher end desktop chips 12gen have dual transcode pipes.
6-7 years from now it’ll make a great router with dual multigig NICs. You can do proper NPTv6.
I don’t mean to be a disciple but see the light.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 7:37 pm to Dallaswho
Didn't mean to arouse so much passion about this
Just fed up with windows flakiness
Just fed up with windows flakiness
Posted on 7/10/26 at 8:40 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
Debian and done
I agree with this recommendation. I've been using Debian since the 90s and I've tried many different distros over the years to see what everyone else is doing.
I always go back to Debian. The community around it is the best for solving any issues that may arise.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:33 pm to CAD703X
lol it hurts. Also not sure about the 2x multigig NICs. I was thinking of the MSII equivalent I have here.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:53 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
Debian and done.
You can do this all within proxmox
Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:04 pm to bluebarracuda
But why? Guy has talked of running AI, NVR, and transcode workloads all which pose serious disadvantages on Proxmox as commonly deployed and at very list limit ballooning availability which is the only tool Proxmox has to remain remotely competitive with a bare metal docker setup.
If you’re trying to run stateful environments, Proxmox is great.
If you’re trying to run stateless applications, Proxmox is a horrible burden.
When you hear people say they’re running frigate and such great on Proxmox, it’s because they’re using simple usb passthrough or got lucky with their iommu groups on their ancient hardware. They’re not running modern Ultralytics or Roboflow models on a 50 TOPS NPU and claiming stability.
Also ZFS pretty much doubles writes to SSDs so if you’re running NVR or Transcode heavy workloads you go from don’t worry for 5 years to maybe worry in 2.5.
If you’re trying to run stateful environments, Proxmox is great.
If you’re trying to run stateless applications, Proxmox is a horrible burden.
When you hear people say they’re running frigate and such great on Proxmox, it’s because they’re using simple usb passthrough or got lucky with their iommu groups on their ancient hardware. They’re not running modern Ultralytics or Roboflow models on a 50 TOPS NPU and claiming stability.
Also ZFS pretty much doubles writes to SSDs so if you’re running NVR or Transcode heavy workloads you go from don’t worry for 5 years to maybe worry in 2.5.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:13 pm to bluebarracuda
I love me some proxmox. All my "servers" are old arse pcs (like legit all close to 10yo), but I have them in a cluster so I can shift things around to maximize resources. Proxmox makes it easy to spin up and manage LXCs plus a handful of actual VMs (one of which is just for running docker).
And for the Debian disciple, Proxmox is Debian based. You can literally take a Deb build, tack on some repos and packages and you have Proxmox. Debian is legit, don't get me wrong and having a single baremetal server running Deb can make sense over Proxmox but imo I would think Proxmox is the better route for most folks looking to self host stuff.
Also, ZFS was mentioned as a negative, which seems crazy to me. ZFS is robust and flexible, and I'd agree that it's overkill for most folks, but you absolutely don't have to use it if you don't want or need to. But it's there if you do.
And for the Debian disciple, Proxmox is Debian based. You can literally take a Deb build, tack on some repos and packages and you have Proxmox. Debian is legit, don't get me wrong and having a single baremetal server running Deb can make sense over Proxmox but imo I would think Proxmox is the better route for most folks looking to self host stuff.
Also, ZFS was mentioned as a negative, which seems crazy to me. ZFS is robust and flexible, and I'd agree that it's overkill for most folks, but you absolutely don't have to use it if you don't want or need to. But it's there if you do.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:39 pm to LSshoe
You’re trying to run your home stack as a legacy SaaS or web server setup. CAD is trying to run modern AI and media apps with (somewhat maybe?) modern equipment.
It’s 2026. Hell, don’t even run Trixie, run 24.04 LTS. It’s great too and has best intel support.
It’s 2026. Hell, don’t even run Trixie, run 24.04 LTS. It’s great too and has best intel support.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:45 pm to LSshoe
Dallaswho takes AI slop as absolute gold standard
Says "run debian" like it has limitless expandability, which it does, but not at the ease of a bare metal hypervisor like proxmox (or any hypervisor, really).
Saying "just run debian" is an elementary way of doing it, which we know CAD likes to do the complete opposite
Says "run debian" like it has limitless expandability, which it does, but not at the ease of a bare metal hypervisor like proxmox (or any hypervisor, really).
Saying "just run debian" is an elementary way of doing it, which we know CAD likes to do the complete opposite
Posted on 7/10/26 at 10:55 pm to bluebarracuda
You might be right but my last post said run Ubuntu.
Trixie was slow to adopt Intel xe2 but they came around. Not sure about xe3 or if it’s any different.
I lived in proxmox hell for some time and I don’t wish that on anybody.
Also a 2025/6 mini that fits in your palm is way more capable than a 10 year old rack.
It’s not ai slop it’s just been there done that and trying to push forward isn’t easy when all your legacy services are stuck in qcows.
To be fair, I totally support using VMs and LXCs as long as all your services down to ddclient and webhook listeners are housed in docker containers for easy escape.
Trixie was slow to adopt Intel xe2 but they came around. Not sure about xe3 or if it’s any different.
I lived in proxmox hell for some time and I don’t wish that on anybody.
Also a 2025/6 mini that fits in your palm is way more capable than a 10 year old rack.
It’s not ai slop it’s just been there done that and trying to push forward isn’t easy when all your legacy services are stuck in qcows.
To be fair, I totally support using VMs and LXCs as long as all your services down to ddclient and webhook listeners are housed in docker containers for easy escape.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 7/11/26 at 12:56 am to Dallaswho
The hardware has been purchased this will be running on:
Dell Precision 3660 Core i7-12700 Intel UHD Graphics 770, Nvidia RTX A2000, 2.10 GHz 32 GB DDR5 2 TB NVMe Windows 11 Pro
Paid $799 on eBay
Dell Precision 3660 Core i7-12700 Intel UHD Graphics 770, Nvidia RTX A2000, 2.10 GHz 32 GB DDR5 2 TB NVMe Windows 11 Pro
Paid $799 on eBay
This post was edited on 7/11/26 at 1:01 am
Posted on 7/11/26 at 2:02 am to CAD703X
Cool. A2000 moves the needle. Can use it to run Roboflow DETR for cameras and decode them while leaving dual Intel encoders for plex/jelly. Will make some heat but seriously capable. Don’t even need the gimped iGPU.
If the a2000 is 12g you might have the itch to run qwen 3.7 9b though.
If the a2000 is 12g you might have the itch to run qwen 3.7 9b though.
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