re: Playstation Vue Price Increase

As others have said unles we can pick the channels we want for a price this appears to be cycling back to people dropping steaming TV like they did cable TV.

I know it's complicated with licensing but this is going in the wrong direction and it's like the are blind to the whole purpose of people walking away from cable TV.

I want AMC, a few food channels, all the espn's. USA, HBO , Fox News , BBC America , syfy, and like 4 others and thats it.

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Keep paying extra for useless channels

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They're the same useless channels you get with psvue.

As others have said, psvue and dtvnow function the exact same as your traditional cable carrier. The programming is just delivered differently.

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this argument is clearly going above your head.

It's not about 720 or 1080. It's about the compression and bitrate of the picture. Streaming content is highly compressed.

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I know exactly what you are talking about

But for the most part the difference in quality is marginal bw most providers.

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Streaming content has significantly more artifacting than cable or satellite, and it's evident in fast moving programming, such as sports.

It's an inferior product.

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It depends on what platform you are streaming from. Something like HBOGO puts out top notch quality.

But nice for you to bring sports into this. Once again streaming technology has caught up. Perfect example was this years Champions league final. Which was broadcast in 4K by British Telecom on youtube. While Fox was only able to push a grainy 720p redistribution signal over cable/satellite provides in america. Streaming is catching up and fast. But if you want to be stuck with the old times be my guest. While streaming has way more 4K content out there. While you might get lucky getting something in 4K on DTV here and there.

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As others have said, psvue and dtvnow function the exact same as your traditional cable carrier. The programming is just delivered differently.

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The thing that separates traditional satellite/cable from streaming for me is the extra fees that satellite has that streaming doesn't. With vue I didn't have to pay monthly for additional receivers. I could use devices I already had. I don't get 10 to 12 dollars extra monthly on satellite taxes and other bs taxes. The basic package I had with dish was like 40 a month but after taxes and extra receivers I was spending like 55. I have the basic vue package for 30 ,soon to be more, in 3 different rooms with basically all the channels I watched on dish for around 30 bucks that's it.that's why I like the streaming because government hasn't hit it with taxes yet but I'm sure that will change soon

DirecTV has a great deal going where I can get their Premier package + 75mbps internet for $125 a month for 2 years.

The issue is, we are building a house across town and moving in later this year. The best internet speed in our new area will be 18mbps. So I will lose the fast speeds.

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My "bundle" for four TV's, with 50/50 Internet, HBO/Starz, and DVR service, with all the taxes and fees was close to $260 a month.

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My bundle, same amount of tvs, 45mb internet, no hbo, but one year NFL Sunday ticket is $97/month inclusive of all taxes and fees. HBO would cost me an extra $15. They also gave me a $350 gift card to sign up, bringing my effective monthly price for the next 2 years close to $80.

Sure, if my monthly cost was $260 I'd go to a streaming service. But I live in an area where I have 4 tv options (dtv, dish, spectrum, uverse) and 2 internet providers (spectrum and uverse). Even without a "new customer promo" that will expire in 2 years, the spectrum standard rate is for a full bundle package is about $127 inclusive of fees. The competition in the area keeps the carriers honest.

Regarding picture quality, watch a football game on directv and watch one via a streaming service, there's a noticeable difference.

Lol at dvr tech systems such as the hopper and genie being "1980s" technology.

The only advantage of cord cutting is lower pricing IF you can't get the lower costs elsewhere. Some of the guys here speaking in absolutes that streaming service is better than traditional cable/satellite, or streaming is cheaper 100% of the time for everyone than traditional are just wrong. Everyone's situation and needs will be different. There will be those that are better off cord cutting, and those that get better value from a bundle. The OP in the thread started by that avid cord cutter was excellent; he loves it but admits its not for everyone.

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Lol at dvr tech systems such as the hopper and genie being "1980s" technology.

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Sorry, I meant 1970`s technology. It may be "updated" technology, but it's still a set-top box, circa 1970's.

I appreciate your steadfastness in support of it though. Reminds me of my dad telling me how it was in the old days and how he liked it that way.

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Sorry, I meant 1970`s technology. It may be "updated" technology, but it's still a set-top box, circa 1970's. 

I appreciate your steadfastness in support of it though. Reminds me of my dad telling me how it was in the old days and how he liked it that way.

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You are a fricking idiot. It's no different than a PlayStation box, a Roku box, a fire stick/tv, etc. All physical devices to provide a service. But keep thinking you are making cool, witty retorts. It's funny.

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Doubt it Stop promoting big cable companies by trying to play down streaming and being pro data cap.

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Stop telling me what to do when you don't know what you are talking about. I'm just sharing facts. I'm in no way promoting big cable companies. Frankly I think they are legit monopolies. We definitely don't have enough TV and internet options in our area; no fiber and Cox is the only game in town for cable. But streaming is not a practical alternative from our perspective. We either download or rip content and play it off an entertainment server as opposed to streaming. Streaming has too many dependent variables/potential points of failure to be reliable. And if you think ISP prices are going up now, just wait until 200 million people are trying to stream 4k content all over the U.S.