re: people paying $1,000 for a phone they will likely upgrade next fall for another $1,000

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You buy a new phone and sell your old one. By doing this, your cost to own is between $200 and $400 per year.

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show me someone selling last year's iphone for $800 so they are only paying $200 for this year's.

this i gotta see.

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The $999 64 GB iPhone X sold for an average of about $722 right before the XS launch.

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"before"

so your argument is they could sell their existing phone then sit around & twiddle their thumbs waiting on the new phone to launch and ship without actually knowing what the new phones were or how much they cost?

this is a stretch.

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so your argument is they could sell their existing phone then sit around & twiddle their thumbs waiting on the new phone to launch and ship without actually knowing what the new phones were or how much they cost?

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Dude, you preorder a week and a half before the phone launches. If you sell the phone before you get the new one, you just ship it the day the new one arrives.

This really isn’t that hard to understand. Even if you waited until launch day to post it for sale, you sell it for around $700. That’s $300/year cost to own the phone for a year. Versus $200ish to own the same phone throughout it’s useful life. Why do you think that’s so outrageous?

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The $999 64 GB iPhone X sold for an average of about $722 right before the XS launch.

On average, you’re out $270ish.

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The average person isn't using Swappa, eBay, or craigslist to sell their phones. They're going to their carrier and getting much less.

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Again, it’s really that much more than your cost to own for keeping it for years.

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This is veering into used vs new car territory

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dumpster-diving

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link to dumpster diving thread?

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The average person isn't using Swappa, eBay, or craigslist to sell their phones.

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or using binder's cracker-jack cat-reflex timing to get those last few dollas out of the old phone.


NOT HAPPENING. real people actually use their phones on a daily basis and can't afford his silly 'cross ship' nonsense to make the phone appear as the old one is being sold after having removed EVERYTHING peronsal from the old phone, swapped out the sim card and configure their new device.

that's not how it works for 99.999% of the phone using population.

Let's start with this thread.

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dumpsterdiver

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There you go.

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does paying $100 for a brand new Pixel XL make me a dumpsterdiver or a genius

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I paid $115 for my Pixel and would still be using my Nexus 6P I paid $200 for if I hadn't lost it.

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You put in your first post that people are paying $1,000 every year to own a new phone.

Somehow I question the extent to which you understand how people operate.

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alright, you win. i bet you think its ok to pay $60,000 for a new F150 too. my argument is you can find a phone 95% as good as a new one for 10% of the price and i don't get why anyone would want to pay $1,000 for a few minor tech updates.

a few years ago i'd probably agree with you but phones have plateaued in recent years and i don't see the value proposition in keeping up with the latest and greatest right now. definitely not with those ugly arse notches. that seems like a huge compromise right now i'm not interested in helping to subsidze the tech companies for $1,000 while they figure out how to get rid of it.