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btr08ex
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
I have the 676 and a powered MTX 12" sub. My living room is 20x17 and I have the sub level turned to the half way mark. It's more than enough punch.


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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
I called psa directly today. And the owner/tech/whatever said essentially the same thing. Considering how I'd ise it, the 18" is overkill and a half.

Their smallest ported sub, a 15", is plenty.
Saves $450, too. (Essentially half way to a second 15" if I ever wanted it.)
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Mahootney
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
Svs said to get the bigger one. Haha.
The pb-3000.
Conflicting information.
$1500 budget. Not sure what to do anymore.
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Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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I woulda gone w/ 2 12"s instead of 1 18"


But those two 12s wouldn't dig as deep as the one 18.


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Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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I have the sub level turned to the half way mark. It's more than enough punch.


You shouldn't really ever be turning your sub volume up above 50-75% of max anyway.


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Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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I called psa directly today. And the owner/tech/whatever said essentially the same thing. Considering how I'd ise it, the 18" is overkill and a half.

Their smallest ported sub, a 15", is plenty.
Saves $450, too. (Essentially half way to a second 15" if I ever wanted it.)


This sounds like the right move. Just check out the response curves on the 15 and 18 and make sure the 15 gets you what you want. Just know that below 20 hz is "feel" and not so much "hear"...but that's pretty cool.
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Mahootney
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
The SVS guy said to grab the PB-3000, but it's only a 13". $1400
The PSA guy said to go with the V1501, but it's a 15". $1000

Probably some paying for the box, brand, and service with SVS.
I guess I'll trust the guy that was trying to down sell me versus the one that was trying to upsell me.


Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
If quality and definition are at about the same level, I would always defer to the bigger driver. And if it saves you some money? Heck yes. Who gives a shite if it's not as pretty.


Mahootney
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
The tech offered down-firing due to having small children in the house. Is there a big difference between DF and Front Firing?


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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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The tech offered down-firing due to having small children in the house. Is there a big difference between DF and Front Firing?


I don't believe so, but I'd defer to others in the thread with more knowledge than me. I honestly think the biggest difference is probably the optics of it. A cool looking front firing sub is going to look sexier than front firing. Bass frequencies are essentially nondirectional or omnidirectional. So it shouldn't technically matter.


Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
So what's the latest here? I'm invested in the decision and first impressions for someone going from having no sub at all to having a really good one. I'm guessing the first impression will be along the lines of "holy shit", followed by "why the hell didn't I do this sooner?!"


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Mahootney
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
Sold some stuff lately. Check came in this week. Gonna cash it and call psa back.
I’m down to the psa v1801 or psa v1501df.
But pretty sure I’m gonna go with the 15” df based on the advice of the psa owner and considering I’ve got young kids (and df would be wiser).

I’ll report back when I get it ordered. Probably also provide a shipping outlook. And do a first impressions and review post.

Thanks for all of the help so far.


TigerDaddy30
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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Sold some stuff lately. Check came in this week. Gonna cash it and call psa back.
I’m down to the psa v1801 or psa v1501df.
But pretty sure I’m gonna go with the 15” df based on the advice of the psa owner and considering I’ve got young kids (and df would be wiser).

I’ll report back when I get it ordered. Probably also provide a shipping outlook. And do a first impressions and review post.

Thanks for all of the help so far.
FML! You mean to tell me that I just read through 4 pages of a 1 1/2 year old post, with hopes for (at some point) a review and some pics of what sound to me like very intriguing home theater setups, only to find out that the original damn purchase has yet to be made?

ETA: Still an interesting discussion, nonetheless
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Mahootney
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
Sometimes the WAF needs to get worked first.


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Chitown_Badger
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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Yeah. I asked for pictures when I first came into this thread, but no dice so far.

Would also love to see a response curve for that setup.


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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
Personally a fan of Klipsch.


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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
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20 18" subs powered with over 28,000 watts
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NOLAGT
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
Hi, my name is NOLAGT, and I’m a basshead

What ever subs anyone gets, placement and tuning mean more than how big and powerful the sub/subs may be. Multiple subs are not always about getting more output but also about getting a good response curve.

If your into DIY things look into things like the free program RoomEqWizzard and get a mic (mini-dsp brand) get some DSPs (same brand mini-dsp). I have not used these yet but have them on hand once I have time.

I have a 21x22x12’ non dedicated room for my now 9.1 system. That room opens to the kitchen one way and dining room foyer the other way so lots of area. Just had the entertainment center installed but had to pause speaker install for a pulmonary embolism trip to the ER.

I had 2 rhythmic ported 15s behind the sofa at first and they did not come close to the output I was after. So I just got 4 Dayton 18s in sealed boxes behind the sofa. With my room layout this was my best option. And near field can take out some of the rooms frickery in the frequency response (you do loose out on room gain as well). Nearfield also gives you the tactile experience that is a huge plus in my book. I had bass shakers on my sofa in the past for this effect since subs were not close in other houses.

With that said I am in love with my new setup. Other bassheads know....when someone hears something like this...the expression is priceless....they have never heard anything like it before. I can tell there are some frequency’s that need some work but amazing for now.

The JBLs and the SVS are for in the garage. Not at the same time just paying with different things out there.

Pushing the 18s with a 4kw @ 2ohm plate amp...subs are wired and showing a 1.3ohm load so I’d guess 5-6kw? Dedicated 20amp circurt with just some LED table lamps plugged in....it sucks the life out of them

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ever43
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re: New Subwoofer - Onkyo tx-nr676
If the AVR or processor is capable of dual subs, I’d go that route. So easy to move them around room and use simple phone apps to find best placement. I’ve got a pair in our living room and a pair in our theater.

Living Room: SVS SB12- Plus
Theater: SVS SB16 Ultra

Given how low my B&W 802’s can go, I use the subs in theater almost strictly for movies. I will occasionally use the SB16’s for music and they are very accurate. They’ve got no issue producing heavier quick delicate notes and can get bowel moving low on hippity hop music.


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