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new construction wiring
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:23 pm
ok guys I finalizing plans right now on my new home, i read the other thread and got quote a few ideas. Will be going with ATT Fiber. House is 2 stories and has a Mother in law suite, a little over 5k living.
Ok onto the plan
I will have a central data hub in the attack(its spray foam so attic stays within 5 degrees of house).
1) will have 1.5" conduit with string run from back side of garage where all electrical comes in to the central hub.
2) all rooms will have coax and cat 6 run to them as will back patio.
3) garage and porte cochere building(garage gym) will have cat 6 run to them.
4) plan to use a POE switch at the hub, prolly a unifi pro so that it has the smart POE capability. Should I be looking at something else?
question is at this point, is should i go with wired access points or simply use a mesh system?
I am going to do my best to keep everything hard wired as much as possible we are going to be streaming only for tv. But i do want to be able to easily connect and maintain the connection throughout the house and the yard.
If its a simple mesh system, any suggestions? dual band or tri band?
any other future items I need to be thinking of? I would think a hard wire to each room would be plenty to cover any future networking needs as most things will simply run off of wifi anyways.
This is the last house I am building and if you have ever dealt with spray foam its a huge pain in the fricking arse to do anything on the outside walls once its in, so i want to get it right the first time.
Ok onto the plan
I will have a central data hub in the attack(its spray foam so attic stays within 5 degrees of house).
1) will have 1.5" conduit with string run from back side of garage where all electrical comes in to the central hub.
2) all rooms will have coax and cat 6 run to them as will back patio.
3) garage and porte cochere building(garage gym) will have cat 6 run to them.
4) plan to use a POE switch at the hub, prolly a unifi pro so that it has the smart POE capability. Should I be looking at something else?
question is at this point, is should i go with wired access points or simply use a mesh system?
I am going to do my best to keep everything hard wired as much as possible we are going to be streaming only for tv. But i do want to be able to easily connect and maintain the connection throughout the house and the yard.
If its a simple mesh system, any suggestions? dual band or tri band?
any other future items I need to be thinking of? I would think a hard wire to each room would be plenty to cover any future networking needs as most things will simply run off of wifi anyways.
This is the last house I am building and if you have ever dealt with spray foam its a huge pain in the fricking arse to do anything on the outside walls once its in, so i want to get it right the first time.
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:34 pm to lsu777
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I will have a central data hub in the attack(its spray foam so attic stays within 5 degrees of house).
Not a great idea. Don’t care that it’s temp controlled.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:42 pm to VABuckeye
Is there a reason why?
It's temp and humidity controlled, no different than the rest of the house. More space to put off heat effectively also. It's walk in and centrally located in the house.
All ears though, I just can't think of a downside.
It's temp and humidity controlled, no different than the rest of the house. More space to put off heat effectively also. It's walk in and centrally located in the house.
All ears though, I just can't think of a downside.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:44 pm to lsu777
-Run CAT6 drops for outdoor/indoor security cameras (including at front doorbell for future).
-Wired APs are better. Run CAT6 drops in ceiling/walls where u want them. An alternative would be to use UniFi in wall units where your normal CAT6 drop is in the room. I do this at my house.
-I'd run CAT6 to your front & back porch/deck so you can put an AP out there as well to give you good coverage outside.
-For your data hub area, are you going to use a server rack/network cabinet?
-Another thing to consider is running wires for speakers
-Wired APs are better. Run CAT6 drops in ceiling/walls where u want them. An alternative would be to use UniFi in wall units where your normal CAT6 drop is in the room. I do this at my house.
-I'd run CAT6 to your front & back porch/deck so you can put an AP out there as well to give you good coverage outside.
-For your data hub area, are you going to use a server rack/network cabinet?
-Another thing to consider is running wires for speakers
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:53 pm to gpburdell
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For your data hub area, are you going to use a server rack/network cabinet?
Not sure yet on that.
The rest are for sure happening even if I have to run the cat6 myself.
Where is the best place for locate the APs? I mean should I do one in each bedroom or just a couple per level?
I'll try and post the floor plan tomorrow, already in bed tonight.
And yea gonna go over speaker wiring this week. Really only going to have them in living room in ceiling, on the back porch and the theater room. Garage gym, prolly just do surface mount that has built in amp and can do Bluetooth as that all I use in there.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 9:34 am to lsu777
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question is at this point, is should i go with wired access points or simply use a mesh system?
I'm doing wired AP's.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 11:47 am to kywildcatfanone
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I'm doing wired AP's
What brand and how many?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 12:03 pm to lsu777
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Where is the best place for locate the APs? I mean should I do one in each bedroom or just a couple per level?
Generally the ceiling is the best location for an AP or high on a wall facing toward where you want the signal to go.
One per floor is usually rule of thumb, but just depends on interference etc.
The Ubiquiti in wall units are designed for hotel rooms and so they aren't as strong. I've got 4 of these in my house (2 per floor). If you find trouble spots in your house later, you could use the inwall unit to add better coverage in that room/area.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:04 pm to lsu777
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What brand and how many?
I haven't decided yet, but probably Unifi. They seem to be of top quality based upon comments I read here and online.
I'm building where there will be 1Gb Fiber from ATT, so I don't want to scrimp on my internet abilities.
My house is 72 feet wide, so I'm doing two AP's about 1/3 in from each side, should give me coverage in basement and bonus room equally.
I am running a few extra Cat6's in each floor in case I need to add another, and doing one out back, and one in my detached garage. So I will likely start with just the 2 and see what coverage I get, then move up to 3 or 4 after I figure that out.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:12 pm to lsu777
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It's walk in and centrally located in the house.
You didn't say this. When I think of an attic I think of stairs or getting on a ladder and climbing through a hatch which would be a pain in the arse to deal with when the modem or router needs reset. If it's a walk-in (which really isn't an attic) then it should be just fine.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:07 am to lsu777
Ubiquiti Unifi Firewall and PoE Switch are both extremely easy to setup. I am using this setup at multiple military construction jobsites at Fort Bragg and Parris Island. Unifi is the best prosumer equipment you can get from a price/ease of setup perspective.
Also get the Unifi AP-AC Long Range Access Points. They will provide more coverage area. Be sure to put them in centralized part of your home. You should also upload image of floorplan to your Unifi dashboard and create a "Heatmap".
Also get the Unifi AP-AC Long Range Access Points. They will provide more coverage area. Be sure to put them in centralized part of your home. You should also upload image of floorplan to your Unifi dashboard and create a "Heatmap".
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 4:16 am
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:24 pm to Chieeefs
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Ubiquiti Unifi Firewall and PoE Switch are both extremely easy to setup.
Thinking of doing Ubiquiti for my house. Is there a particular firewall and PoE switch model you recommend or do they just have one?
I'm going to need a switch for 16-24 or so devices, a mix of TV's, data, and security cameras.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 1:08 am to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:37 am to Chieeefs
I can vouch for these long range UniFi APs. I have 2 in my 2800 sq ft home and I have awesome coverage even outside in the front yard and back. My home is kind of long and less deep and there isn’t a good place for the AP in the center. I put one on one end toward the back to catch the backyard and the other on the other end toward the front for front yard. It reaches my back shed 150 ft at the back of the property and basically covers the entire half acre with good speed throughout.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:46 pm to Chieeefs
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Chieeefs
So, I will have ATT Fiber at new house, 1Gb, cat 6 from ONT to router to switch? So this Gateway and PoE switch should do the trick?
I also will have 2 AP's spaced about 1/3 from each side of the house, house is 75 wide. It sounds like the long range AP's would not even require me to need one outside?
Then would I need to get their security cameras? Looking at PoE cameras in soffit's of house. One cat6 to each location.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:39 am to kywildcatfanone
That should do the trick. Connect ONT(Fiber box) to Modem...Modem to WAN port of Security Gateway....and connect LAN port of Security Gateway to PoE switch.
You'll want to setup DHCP on the Unifi Security Gateway...and the long range AP's signal should reach outside as long as you don't have thick brick walls or metal.
As for the cameras....I don't know a thing about Unifi cameras but I know all of their products integrate well. I'm a Network Engineer so I usually don't frick with cameras...I have a security camera vendor I use to setup that type of stuff.
I'm assuming you will also need to purchase the Unifi Network Video Recorder if you use their cameras LINK
You'll want to setup DHCP on the Unifi Security Gateway...and the long range AP's signal should reach outside as long as you don't have thick brick walls or metal.
As for the cameras....I don't know a thing about Unifi cameras but I know all of their products integrate well. I'm a Network Engineer so I usually don't frick with cameras...I have a security camera vendor I use to setup that type of stuff.
I'm assuming you will also need to purchase the Unifi Network Video Recorder if you use their cameras LINK
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 1:50 am
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:55 am to Chieeefs
Posted on 5/4/20 at 7:25 am to lsu777
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garage and porte cochere building(garage gym) will have cat 6 run to them
Give me access to that home gym and I'll come help you design it
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