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re: Linux advice
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:45 am to j1897
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:45 am to j1897
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But why?
If your not a software developer, it's complete junk. If you are just buy a Mac or use WSL.
If it weren't for my kids playing computer games, I'd be back to 100% on Linux. It is just better at everything except the availability of games.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:00 am to notsince98
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It is just better at everything
I mean it's your preference, and that's fine. But everything?
The hw support is arse
The software support is arse
There's serious security concerns for someone who doesn't know what they are doing(heartbleed anyone??)
I think everything is a stretch.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:23 am to j1897
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The hw support is arse
Brother, it's time for you to leave the chat due to your stupidity.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:37 am to j1897
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The hw support is arse
No other OS is in the same league as Linux as far as hardware support. It's not even close. Linux has lapped the field multiple times.
quote:Software support is far from arse. If you have a need for some Windows- or Mac-specific software, then your view might be biased. There are Linux alternatives for just about everything.
The software support is arse
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There's serious security concerns for someone who doesn't know what they are doing(heartbleed anyone??)
Any major Linux distro is likely far more secure than Windows out of the box. Macs also have their problems. Any non-trivial software is going to have flaws, but to pick out Linux as the OS with the most serious security concerns is laughable.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:57 am to Korkstand
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but to pick out Linux as the OS with the most serious security concerns is laughable.
I didn't say that.
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There's serious security concerns for someone who doesn't know what they are doing(heartbleed anyone??)
Maybe read?
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:03 pm to notsince98
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weren't for my kids playing computer games, I'd be back to 100% on Linux. It is just better at everything except the availability of games.
Steam and Lutris. Do it.
I played d4 at launch. Playing cyberpunk 2077 now.
Gaming on Linux is miles ahead of just 2 years ago
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:24 pm to Hulkklogan
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Steam and Lutris
My kids use Steam on Windows but when I looked into using it on Linux, it appeared to require a windows emulator (wine most likely). I never had luck with anything running well in a windows emulator but I havent messed with one for probably 15 years. Plus, I doubt my hardware is good enough to handle software mode for graphics. I need good, quality hardware acceleration for the games.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:28 pm to notsince98
It is using WINE under the hood, but in my experience the difference in performance is negligible.
Valve has helped make huge strides in Linux drivers and emulation because of the steam deck. They made their own compatibility layer called Proton. Hardware acceleration works.
Seriously, you just use steam and download the game(s) and most run with zero tweaking.
Valve has helped make huge strides in Linux drivers and emulation because of the steam deck. They made their own compatibility layer called Proton. Hardware acceleration works.
Seriously, you just use steam and download the game(s) and most run with zero tweaking.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:36 pm to notsince98
quote:Wine Is Not an Emulator
a windows emulator (wine most likely)
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:47 pm to j1897
quote:quote:I didn't say that.
but to pick out Linux as the OS with the most serious security concerns is laughable.quote:Maybe read?
There's serious security concerns for someone who doesn't know what they are doing(heartbleed anyone??)
What the frick is your point? You made a list of reasons why Linux sucks compared to the alternatives, but your list was essentially all positives for Linux. Heartbleed was a non-issue for desktop Linux.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:56 pm to Korkstand
I cant stop laughing about the hardware support, especially since he keeps bringing up MacOS, which has the absolute worst hardware support
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:39 pm to Hulkklogan
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It is using WINE under the hood, but in my experience the difference in performance is negligible.
Valve has helped make huge strides in Linux drivers and emulation because of the steam deck. They made their own compatibility layer called Proton. Hardware acceleration works.
Seriously, you just use steam and download the game(s) and most run with zero tweaking.
this got me excited until i started looking into fortnite. dangit.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:39 pm to bluebarracuda
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I cant stop laughing about the hardware support, especially since he keeps bringing up MacOS, which has the absolute worst hardware support
Like every tech company in the world uses Mac's almost exclusively. Even microsoft people use mac's lol.
Junk though right, not good for anything.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:40 pm to notsince98
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this got me excited until i started looking into fortnite. dangit.
Most multiplayer games that have an anti-cheat client will not run on WINE. Unfortunately, if you are a primary FPS player you're stuck with Windows (like myself)
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:46 pm to j1897
quote:What does that have to do with hardware support?
Like every tech company in the world uses Mac's almost exclusively. Even microsoft people use mac's lol.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:50 pm to j1897
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Like every tech company in the world uses Mac's almost exclusively. Even microsoft people use mac's lol.
Junk though right, not good for anything.
If that is your argument, they all run their most prized and financially critical systems (network management and data center servers) on Linux. That is probably more a testament than using macs for office work.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:52 pm to Korkstand
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What does that have to do with hardware support?
I mean, it's a closed system, their hardware support is 100%.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:53 pm to j1897
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:54 pm to notsince98
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they all run their most prized and financially critical systems (network management and data center servers) on Linux.
100% agree, i do the same.
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That is probably more a testament than using macs for office work.
Agree, mainly development, mainly due to the spread of kube. Which is why i started off the thread, saying this:
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If your not a software developer
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:16 pm to j1897
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But why?
If your not a software developer, it's complete junk. If you are just buy a Mac or use WSL.
Because I can? Because I like to learn new things?
I have Windows and Mac machines in the house, and they are fine. I've dabbled in Linux in the past and want to use it more and learn. It costs nothing, what could be the downside?
Variety is the spice of life.
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