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CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
Uh I'm not sure if you're arguing we should trust our government or we should trust giant corporate entities for knowing every detail of our personal lives.

What could possibly go seeing?


TigerMyth36
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
See... they changed you "wrong" to "seeing." Abort... run Cad. They have you!


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?


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DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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CAD703X

But in the end, do you really care? Honestly?
I know you use sonos so they know all your music tastes - but who really cares?

google probably knows what porn I like - but in the end, do I care? I'm an open book and not that weird so it's not that different than the 3.x billion other males in this world.

If you're not doing something really friggin weird, who cares in the end?


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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My wife is concerned about having nest cameras in the house. But then I asked her "Even if someone cracked our password and logged in to our account - who wants to watch a 4 year old and a 2 year old sleep?"


Your kids are never naked in their rooms?


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Your kids are never naked in their rooms?

They're 2 and 4 so hardly, compared to say a 12 year old. I see what you're saying and those cameras will come down as they get older and are more self sufficient.

I just highly doubt that someone is cracking my home wifi or nest cameras in order to look at a naked 2 year old or 4 year old. Sure, there are really sick people out there but sadly, it probably exists on the internet and is much more easy to obtain than my house.
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CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
Exactly. And try explaining you were hacked to the local authorities when Comcast sends them an alert that they detected you are uploading naked videos of children.

Good luck with the sex offender registry you'll end up on.

Have you even paid attention to all the websites that exist featuring live hacked webcams?


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CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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I just highly doubt that someone is cracking my home wifi or nest cameras in order to look at a naked 2 year old or 4 year old

The hackers are just taking over your webcam and publishing it in the web. It's the thousands of weirdoes that can access that stream you have to worry about and what they're doing with the footage.

Like I said, Comcast will be the first to alert the feds.


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
Eh, well I purposely change my pw every now and then so I'm probably ok.
If not, I hope they're watching the sun slightly change on my daughters floor for the next 8 hours. Seems boring as shite to me but they can knock themselves out, if they want.

The good of the cameras outweighs the potential of bad, to me. But yes, those cams will be moved to cover the front and back doors of my house as soon as my girls get older and don't need to be monitored.


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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Uh I'm not sure if you're arguing we should trust our government or we should trust giant corporate entities for knowing every detail of our personal lives. What could possibly go seeing?


What I’m saying is that I’m just a regular guy. I have nothing to hide (from the government )... if they wanna read my text messages that consist of perverted memes in a group text, regular back and forth messages bw the wife and I, and emails with thousands of work orders, so be it.... I’m not going to punish myself and miss out on all the technology that’s available for my use...

the paranoia that consumes my cousin is a bit extreme... he’s so scared of the government and corporations spying on him that it prevents him from functioning like a normal person

That’s a bit much


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
I think the real threat to privacy and what will make people think twice about giving so much information to companies is when they tie this much closer to advertising. When you're hosting a party in 5 years and a commercial for Adult Diapers comes on, everyone at your party will know you wear adult diapers, or whatever secret condition you have that you are hiding from everyone but Google.


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DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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the paranoia that consumes my cousin is a bit extreme... he’s so scared of the government and corporations spying on him that it prevents him from functioning like a normal person That’s a bit much

Agreed. I have coworkers that are in the IT industry that act the same. I tend to ask them "how important do you think you are?" which they don't seem to get.

In short, no one generally cares about what the regular male or female is doing during the day or what we read or watch on the internet, at least not to the point of missing out on all the cool stuff today. Should we be aware of it and maybe even weary of it always with a self induced "checks and balances" of companies, sure. But not fear based shut ins.


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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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What I’m saying is that I’m just a regular guy. I have nothing to hide (from the government )... if they wanna read my text messages that consist of perverted memes in a group text, regular back and forth messages bw the wife and I, and emails with thousands of work orders, so be it..

I think you and DoubleDown are severely underestimating the damage that can be done with seemingly innocuous information. I'd bet that just in the past month of your text history, there are dozens of phrases that can be taken out of context to make a case against you. A case for what? Who knows? Maybe you said something (a joke, maybe) that triggered the machine to flag you as a potential terrorist or other type of criminal. Maybe someone needs to meet an arrest quota. Are arrest quotas a thing? They might be one day.

It might seem far-fetched, but it's really not. If all of your private data can be assembled, a case can be made against nearly all of us for one thing or another. Maybe years ago you happened to download the anarchist's cookbook, and maybe you happened to buy some household supplies on Amazon that are ingredients for some naughty recipe, and maybe something you said in a text or email could be construed as a dislike of a particular person or organization. Would we go Minority Report on ourselves? Maybe not. But could we? Absolutely.



I'm not saying that you or anyone should live a life of paranoia, but I am saying that maybe we should all be aware of what could possibly happen, and happen easily. All it takes is a trigger-happy person in charge to decide to start cracking down on something, and any of us could get caught up in this gigantic net. Would the truth eventually come out for the innocent? Probably, but what would it do to your life to have to deal with something like that?


Privacy is important.


CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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Eh, well I purposely change my pw every now and then so I'm probably ok.
ok

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If not, I hope they're watching the sun slightly change on my daughters floor for the next 8 hours. Seems boring as shite to me but they can knock themselves out, if they want.


you realize there is software out there that monitors this automatically and only starts recording when something 'interesting' happens.
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DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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you realize there is software out there that monitors this automatically and only starts recording when something 'interesting' happens.

My life isn't that interesting, guys. If you want to watch me or my wife change my 2 year olds diaper and see poop or pee, GO NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell, I'll invite you over and let you go fist deep in shite or pee. You can get the 1st person view of everything, no camera needed.

I think we all understand what you're saying. I get your points. Somehow, you're not seeing ours though?


CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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I think you and DoubleDown are severely underestimating the damage that can be done with seemingly innocuous information. I'd bet that just in the past month of your text history, there are dozens of phrases that can be taken out of context to make a case against you. A case for what? Who knows? Maybe you said something (a joke, maybe) that triggered the machine to flag you as a potential terrorist or other type of criminal. Maybe someone needs to meet an arrest quota. Are arrest quotas a thing? They might be one day.


unless this has happened to you, you will never get it.

case in point, i used to work in a sales office with 2 other white males, a very hot/paranoid 'secretary type' who was newly married and an older greek lady who had the biggest potty mouth you've ever seen. we used to routinely tell off-color jokes as we were in an 'open air' environment and did not even have cubicle walls.

one day the secretary told us a story about her husband 'looking at her with tears in his eyes' when looking at a new 300z and basically belittling him. so we started making jokes about it and one day she flipped out over nothing and went & told the sales manager some of the off-color jokes we had made that were of a sexual nature and BOY did it look bad when it was written down in print! we were frickED (the 3 white guys anyway).

well once it reached the point they were actually going to start taking statements, the older greek woman saunters into the room and proceeds to completely eviscerate the secretary to the point she basically started crying, admitted she only did it out of spite and quit on the spot.

if it hadn't been for that older woman who was extermely well-respected in the company, we were all in deep doodoo and who knows where it would have ended?

TL;CAD;DR kork is 100% right. things you say in a completely throw-away manner can come back to haunt you in a BIG WAY and while you can scoff and laugh at tinfoil hats, i bet you'll be surprised one day how something that had no meaning at the timne can come back to bite you in the ass.

happens all the time in divorces.


DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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I think you and DoubleDown are severely underestimating the damage that can be done with seemingly innocuous information.

Are we?
I'll counter with, name me 5 instances of this occurring? This isn't even needed in today's society.

Look at #MeToo or other movements (some of which are good and positive) but any woman that I've ever worked with could say I sexually assaulted them and I'd be cooked even though I KNOW I never have. Guilty until proven innocent. Why would they need to hack my cams?


CAD703X
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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I'll counter with, name me 5 instances of this occurring?

ask 5 newly divorced people on the OT if their ex presented something innocent they said/did in a way that made them look worse than Jack the Ripper when it was read out loud in court.

i'll wait


DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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TL;CAD;DR kork is 100% right. things you say in a completely throw-away manner can come back to haunt you in a BIG WAY and while you can scoff and laugh at tinfoil hats, i bet you'll be surprised one day how something that had no meaning at the timne can come back to bite you in the ass.

That's not what I'm arguing, at all.
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happens all the time in divorces.

Tell ya what, if my marriage gets rocky, I'll take my girls cams down in the off chance that I may or may not say something that will condemn me in this purely hypothetical situation.

Until then, cams stay up and I can check up on my 2 rooms as I see fit.


DoubleDown
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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?
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ask 5 newly divorced people on the OT if their ex presented something innocent they said/did in a way that made them look worse than Jack the Ripper when it was read out loud in court.

They don't need cams for this.
Most women (I can look up the percentages if you truly care) win divorce settlements overwhelmingly with or without evidence.

Most women get custody of the kids, etc. This has nothing to do with cams.
We've gotten off topic.

Cad, I love you, but on this topic we simply agree to disagree.


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