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re: Is anyone else worried that Google and Amazon are taking over our lives?

Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:36 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:36 am to
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Tell ya what, if my marriage gets rocky, I'll take my girls cams down in the off chance that I may or may not say something that will condemn me in this purely hypothetical situation.

Until then, cams stay up and I can check up on my 2 rooms as I see fit.


and if you find footage on the web a year from now of your wife walking in naked and breast feeding your little girl...?

oh but its ok, its probably only being traded on the backchannels in china and russia so you wont come across it.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:37 am to
You’re reaching big time CAD


and you’re a poster that a I respect, so just know that I’m not taking shots at you
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:39 am to
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and if you find footage on the web a year from now of your wife walking in naked and breast feeding your little girl...?

We're good. We used formula.
I truly hear what you're saying. Myself and family just aren't that interesting.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:40 am to
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and you’re a poster that a I respect, so just know that I’m not taking shots at you


the foscam i set up to keep an eye on my parents was hacked along with their entire PC being turned into a porn-zombie-server farm through a hole in the VNC software i had installed

so yes i'm team tinfoil now. would it help if i told you this happened because i set them up with a basic password that i planned to change after i drove home..and that was an 8 hour drive. :/

yep, in 8 hours my parent's poor PC was so fricked i had to have them pull the plug out of the wall and i had to nuke it and start over later.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:46 am to
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I'd bet that just in the past month of your text history, there are dozens of phrases that can be taken out of context to make a case against you. A case for what? Who knows?


So the government is going just fabricate a case against me out of thin air? For what? What am I doing wrong?

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Maybe you said something (a joke, maybe) that triggered the machine to flag you as a potential terrorist or other type of criminal.


But I’m not... whew, dodged a bullet there

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Maybe someone needs to meet an arrest quota. Are arrest quotas a thing? They might be one day.


No, they aren’t. And they more than likely never will be... even the mythical ‘ticket quota’ is false... at least in my parish it is.. this screams paranoia to me

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It might seem far-fetched, but it's really not. If all of your private data can be assembled, a case can be made against nearly all of us for one thing or another.


It is far fetched.. a case against WHAT? they are going to accuse me of being a terrorist because of a joke I mayor may not have made with a friend via text message? ok, let’s see how far that gets them

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I'm not saying that you or anyone should live a life of paranoia


With all due respect (I mean that honestly, because even though I think most of what you’re saying is WAYYY out there, I enjoy this discussion tbh), you say that, yet I bet you truly believe most, if not all, of the hypotheticals that you mention. Like I said, they can take ALL of my info, all of my data, all of my messages, pics, emails, etc and more than likely do NOTHING with it.. I’m a regular, average guy who does nothing wrong.. sure, they might see my woman’s glorious arse if they have access to my pictures, but I’m OK with that
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:48 am to


Why does stuff like that only happen to IT guys or guys heavily involved in technology?

Does it happen to everyone else and they just don’t know? Honest question
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:49 am to
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So the government is going just fabricate a case against me out of thin air? For what? What am I doing wrong?



i mean its not like you're a POTUS they don't like or something.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:51 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:52 am to
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Why does stuff like that only happen to IT guys or guys heavily involved in technology?


so ransomware doesn't happen to fortune 500 companies and older people who pick up the phone and believe microsoft needs to install a patch on their computers?

do you really think this stuff is rare?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:55 am to
Dude, relax.

And what does ransomware have to do with what we were talking about? Is ransomware ran by the government?
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:57 am
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:56 am to
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i mean its not like you're a POTUS they don't like or something.

Still fits my narrative though. If I'm Kanye West or the President, sure, this stuff is a no go.

But I'm not. Outside of my family and probably 50-100 people that I know pretty well, most people wouldn't know my name or remember my face - and I like it that way. In other words, I'm not important or famous enough for anyone to waste their own time with, I'm just not. I don't get offended by it, I revel in it.

It let's me play with cool toys, like Nest Cams.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:57 am to
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Dude, relax.

for pointing out the facts? do you even know non-techie people with computers? this happens ALL THE TIME and if you are going to deny that basic fact then we aren't going to make much progress on this discussion.

even the best 'geek protected' PC you hand over to your parents/non tech friends can be circumvented via low tech phone call where the person on the line convinces them to go to a website that takes over their computer.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:58 am to
Yeah I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you LOL.. But that’s exactly what I’m saying. I do nothing wrong, I have nothing to hide, if the government wants to spy on me, let them. I’m not sure why they are getting so offended by our questions
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:59 am to
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this happens ALL THE TIME and if you are going to deny that basic fact then we aren't going to make much progress on this discussion.


I clearly said it was an honest question. I don’t know a lot about computers. I don’t know a lot about technology. I’m not sure why you are taking the tone that you are with me..
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Yeah I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you LOL

Aw just cause of the Saints vs Falcons stuff?
I try and rile up that Saints board sometimes during the season but then try to have serious topics in the offseason, which is a bad approach, I realize. But I get a kick out of it. So many people get so mad though.


I do enjoy this conversation too. If I had to guess based on what CAD said earlier though, he had a REALLY bad experience and so that's jaded his viewpoint some. I am leery of it but I am not going to avoid it in the off chance that something bad might happen.

For example, I enjoy downtown New Orleans when I can go but I know that bad crime can happen there. So I avoid drug deals and shady alleys. I'm weary of it and conscious about pitfalls (and getting murdered) but I won't avoid it and be scared of it.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:03 pm to
AnyWho, back on topic. There are 283 reasons why people should be paranoid about their Internet usage, but I’m not sure I meet any of those qualifications















This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:04 pm to
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And what does ransomware have to do with what we were talking about? Is ransomware ran by the government?


LINK

This story is from oh....12 hours ago

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Questions were raised last year about whether FBI agents were actively recruiting technicians at Best Buy’s Geek Squad to search for illegal content on customer devices. According to newly released documents, however, prior reports only scratched the surface: Best Buy’s ties with the FBI appear more complex than once surmised.

The existence of the Geek Squad informants was first revealed via the prosecution of a California doctor named Mark Rettenmaier. After Rettenmaier sent his computer to Geek Squad for repair in 2011, technicians working out of a massive Kentucky repair shop discovered thousands of images depicting child abuse on Rettenmaier’s device. Court filings later revealed that there were “eight FBI informants at Geek Squad City,” and a number had received $500 to $1,000 payments in exchange for acting as confidential sources.

It was unclear at the time how much Best Buy knew about the arrangement. However, documents recently acquired by the Electronic Frontier Foundation—which last year sued the Justice Department under the Freedom of Information Act after the FBI denied the group access to records—show that Best Buy has, at least at certain times, maintained a relationship with the feds, at one point hosting a meeting with the FBI’s Cyber Crimes Working Group at its Kentucky repair facility.


Photos of NSA Cisco routers "upgrade"




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Here’s how it works: shipments of computer network devices (servers, routers, etc,) being delivered to our targets throughout the world are intercepted. Next, they are redirected to a secret location where Tailored Access Operations/Access Operations (AO-S326) employees, with the support of the Remote Operations Center (S321), enable the installation of beacon implants directly into our targets’ electronic devices. These devices are then re-packaged and placed back into transit to the original destination. All of this happens with the support of Intelligence Community partners and the technical wizards in TAO.



These aren't tinfoil hat stories, they actually happened.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:05 pm to
The information they gather and market is scary as hell
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12847 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:06 pm to
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AnyWho, back on topic. There are 283 reasons why people should be paranoid about their Internet usage, but I’m not sure I meet any of those qualifications

You. Son. Of. A. B*&%#.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:08 pm to
Again, that just doesn’t scare me... like I’ve been saying, I have nothing to hide

And I never once said that it doesn’t happen, not sure where you are getting that impression
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:09 pm to
Sorry man, I had to
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