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re: If you have windows 7, what is the next /best move for window users?

Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 8:22 pm to
I would like to get a list of what this "bloatware" includes
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:31 pm to
Your first picture does not represent win10 since summer of last year, also kinda bullshite to have the start menu open on Windows and not have at a minimum a finder window open on the Mac

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Well that’s my point. The start menu was DESIGNED to be open.


Not with win10

They are getting away from the start menu and focusing more on the taskbar and search
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:49 am to
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also kinda bullshite to have the start menu open on Windows and not have at a minimum a finder window open on the Mac


No it isn't. Almost everything you need is at the bottom of the screen. I'll bet the typical Mac user rarely needs the Finder, whereas Windows throws that crappy layout in your face and the typical Windows user is stuck with it, unless they know how to reconfigure the whole start screen and run "Powerscripts" and such....
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 6:03 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:58 am to
Holy shite you're dumb

The taskbar and dock (not sure exactly what it's called) serve the exact same purpose
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:28 am to
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No it isn't. Almost everything you need is at the bottom of the screen. I'll bet the typical Mac user rarely needs the Finder, whereas Windows throws that crappy layout in your face and the typical Windows user is stuck with it, unless they know how to reconfigure the whole start screen and run "Powerscripts" and such....


So... you are either being obtuse, or you are seriously a moron, the start menu hasn't been a "go-to" for anything since Windows XP (2006 is when Vista came out) - the taskbar at the bottom of Windows is now EXACTLY like the dock on Mac, and actually easier to pin things to it than Macs, because Window's search isn't ganky like Mac OS

Also, you are missing the point, the Start menu doesn't look like your picture anymore:



Also, just a normal desktop, with the taskbar, which EVERYONE uses now, as a comparison to your stupid post:



ETA: I haven't run a single "Powerscript" anything on my computer, I could, but there is no need
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 8:29 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:04 am to
quote:

The taskbar and dock (not sure exactly what it's called) serve the exact same purpose





I'm talking about all this crap on the screen, doesn't that sprout up one I click the start button? . Are you saying that's not the default Windows 10? Isn't that how Microsoft thinks I should "Start"?
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:15 am to
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doesn't that sprout up one I click the start button?


No, my picture above is what happens when you click on start, your picture is out of date

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Are you saying that's not the default Windows 10?


No, default Windows doesn't even call it "start" anymore, it's just the "Windows button menu"

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Isn't that how Microsoft thinks I should "Start"?


No, they want you to use your taskbar and search
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:33 am to
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No, my picture above is what happens when you click on start, your picture is out of date



What picture above?

And I see how it goes now, after a decade of shoving crappy look and U/I down their customers throats they give up and go to a more Mac like look. Or did they get it wrong yet again? Only time will tell. Man you Microsoft guys take the cake....
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:54 am to
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What picture above?




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d go to a more Mac like look.


The dark bar on the bottom, not centered and with an icon menu in the right for running applications... with the chance to minimize running applications.. no, they aren't going with a Mac look, it's still very different.

If you are talking about the background image, I figured I would make that my default background image since you seem simple minded and might actually point out that difference.

Everything is done through search now, and Windows 10 doesn't have shitty spotlight ruining everything, so I would put Win10 WAY ahead of Catalina where I constantly have to reset Spotlight for my customers (which works maybe half the time).
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:13 pm to
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full disk clean and do a clean install of windows 10?


It's always best practice to do this, even though its not always necessary.
Posted by Kracka
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:27 pm to
Ive got my windows 10 setup where I have no use for the start menu, I don't clutter up my desktop with all the shortcuts and it looks perfect for me.


BTW, for those messing with LINUX, do those version have the option to run it strictly on command line, or is it just desktop versions?
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:45 pm to
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for those messing with LINUX, do those version have the option to run it strictly on command line, or is it just desktop versions?


Some distros are strictly command line and some are command line and GUI

All depends on which you wanna use
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 3:10 am to
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Everything is done through search now,


LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:11 am to
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Windows throws that crappy layout in your face and the typical Windows user is stuck with it, unless they know how to reconfigure the whole start screen and run "Powerscripts" and such....

this isn't true. i don't use scripts and i almost never use my start. all my programs of note are on my taskbars, just like MacOS

it's not "in your face" unless you use it. and you can modify it (without scripts) how you wish

here's how my home pc/tablet is set up (and i only pulled up the start menu to show you what mine looks like. it almost never gets used, though b/c my programs are on the taskbar below. screen shot taken with post in back to show it's in real time)

Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 7:53 am to
Wow, you found a bug that was fixed in less than an hour, good on you
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:16 am to
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Wow, you found a bug that was fixed in less than an hour, good on you




Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:40 am to
I want to use both. I am going to try to study to get a linux cert. I need something to lab with.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:01 am to
It's not actually a bad design:

I tell someone they should use "application x" and they search "application x" but it's not installed on their computer. The Bing search actually links them to the download page of the application and they download it and install it... How often is this done? Very little. But it's not a bad design, and in an Enterprise environment I have it turned off for my workers with a very simple group policy.

ETA: the only reason I turn it off for my workers is they can't install things on their computers, so it would be a pointless feature for them
This post was edited on 2/6/20 at 9:03 am
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