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re: Home automation hubs
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:51 am to LSU5508
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:51 am to LSU5508
i dont know about more efficient but switches are more practical.
If you do bulbs often times you will probably come across the scenario where the switch on the wall is turned to off. if this happens you cannot control the smart bulb from the app. it has to be getting power.
whereas if you have a smartswitch it does not matter. will always have control.
the only time a bulb really makes sense (to me at least) is for lamps.
If you do bulbs often times you will probably come across the scenario where the switch on the wall is turned to off. if this happens you cannot control the smart bulb from the app. it has to be getting power.
whereas if you have a smartswitch it does not matter. will always have control.
the only time a bulb really makes sense (to me at least) is for lamps.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 9:52 am
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:52 am to mchias1
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between zwave and hue no other radios are needed.
you do realize just about every smart bulb and outlet is zigbee, not zwave right?
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Plus I don't have to worry about many internet going down and not being able to control my home locally.
both smartthings and wink have moved much of the basic control locally such as lights and i see that trend continuing.
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he may find working with a pi enjoyable and quite easy.
i agree, i have a pi and its fun to play with but i lack the time & patience to try to create a HA system using it.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:55 am to LSU5508
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My initial thoughts are a hub, thermostat, door lock,Switches/dimmers/outlets.
yup. need suggestions?
also
i personally like my $49 kidde smoke/CO2 detector in the kitchen because i get alerts with my MiL comes over and sets it off cooking bacon.
do you have a pool pump? theres a fantastic 120/220v switch you can use to schedule the pump
glaring omission in your list above is sensors. i have several boxes of GOCONTROL door sensors, motion detectors & alarms i will be happy to sell you for a great price. i bought them on clearance at home depot and have done NOTHING with them.
wink just enabled the temp sensor on the go control motion detector so thats nice.
you really need door/window sensors if you want to properly manage your smart door lock.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:57 am to LSU5508
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Is it more efficient to do bulbs or switches/dimmers?
wrong question.
let me post my response on reddit to this on here so I don't have to rewrite it:
WHEN DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR A SMART BULB vs SWITCH?
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1. Bare lightbulb switch with a pull chain such as an attic light. No question here particularly if you want to put a door sensor on your attic access. Throw a $10ish GE link in there and set it to go ON when you open the stairs and OFF when you close them. Simple and cheap. Bonus: wrap the pull chain around a rafter to remind yourself you don't need it if you inadvertently reach up to turn the light off when leaving the attic.
2. One wall switch controls several lights. Sometimes older houses might use a wall switch to turn on a couple of outlets, a light fixture on the wall or 2 and maybe even a post light. In a situation like this, to have maximum flexibility you would probably want to put a cover over the switch and then put smart bulbs in the various fixtures so you could control them independently.
3. You have a couple of bedside lamps with the switch halfway down the power cord. This inevitably ends up behind the headboard or you end up 'propping' the switch up so you can get to it with a paperweight or your drink cup on the nightstand or you find yourself stretched halfway out of the bed fumbling around behind the headboard to pull it up so you can flick it off. Your choice here is (a) a couple of cheap smart bulbs or (b) 1 or 2 smart outlets (if you want to control the bulbs independently. Again, a smart bulb is the obvious choice and if you use a motion detector or occupant sensor, there's no need to pull out a phone to turn them on or off.
4. You just found out your electrical wiring lacks a common/neutral. Well..damn. You don't have much option here except to go with a smart bulb.
5. any type of color changing (GE morning bulbs, RGB bulbs) takes place within the bulb itself as well so if you want more than just dimming, the smart bulb is the only way to achieve that.
So the next time someone tells you that its dumb to purchase a smart bulb, remind them that one-size does not fit all.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:58 am to bbap
quote:see my response above
the only time a bulb really makes sense (to me at least) is for lamps.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:01 am to CAD703X
CAD,
Thanks.
I have been following home automation for a while but since i wasn't a home owner it wasn't practical to me at the time. Now that i am i feel like i need to catch up. I may take you up on that offer for the security but i want to implement all the basic stuff first. Thanks for your prompt response. I'm sure i'll have many more questions.
Thanks.
I have been following home automation for a while but since i wasn't a home owner it wasn't practical to me at the time. Now that i am i feel like i need to catch up. I may take you up on that offer for the security but i want to implement all the basic stuff first. Thanks for your prompt response. I'm sure i'll have many more questions.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:02 am to CAD703X
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you do realize just about every smart bulb and outlet is zigbee, not zwave right?
Maybe on the clearance shelf at Home Depot.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:14 am to TigerWise
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Maybe on the clearance shelf at Home Depot.
CREE
GE
HUE
OSRAM
TCP
i'm sorry, which bulbs use zwave again? those $50 linearlincs?
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:20 am to CAD703X
Yes, Linear. The same GoControl stuff you are pimping a few post ago.
Might have a garage sale.
Might have a garage sale.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:24 am to TigerWise
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Yes, Linear.
they got any $15 smart bulbs?
you do realize CREE is the industry standard for natural-looking LED right?
CREE has also released an entire new line of bulbs that are even BETTER than the ones already on the market which are already miles ahead of anything else.
But you want the OP to believe a $15 smart CREE using zigbee is somehow trumped by a $55 linear bulbs developed by a company who is doing 50 other things at the same time?
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The same GoControl stuff you are pimping a few post ago.
i. pimp. cheap. that gocontrol stuff is great but i wouldn't have bought any of it at full price.
eta
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September 13, 2016 - Cree, Inc. (CREE) announces a completely new portfolio of next generation LED bulbs aimed at delivering better light experiences for consumers. The new bulb portfolio consists of 25 new products, offering better light quality, better dimming, better lifetime, better warranty and better pricing to deliver on the true promise of LED technology to make lighting better than it was before.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:29 am to CAD703X
I'd rather have Zwave over zigbee
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:34 am to LSU5508
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looking to get a learning thermostat probably a nest
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:39 am to CAD703X
quote:can you please email me the link to this. all of my alarms are off cause they were doing that fricking beeping and i ddnt have any batteries to replace. which is weird cause they are hardwired.
i personally like my $49 kidde smoke/CO2 detector
quote:and sell me these for your cost since i have someone in my city that seems to go to HD every day and cleared out everytrhing they have.
i have several boxes of GOCONTROL door sensors, motion detectors & alarms i will be happy to sell you for a great price. i bought them on clearance at home depot and have done NOTHING with them.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:50 am to LSU5508
SmartThings is great for normal people
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:51 am to TigerWise
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I'd rather have Zwave over zigbee
i dont disagree but i'm not paying 3-4x as much for it.
ya gotta lower your standards to be practical, man.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:55 am to CarRamrod
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can you please email me the link to this. all of my alarms are off cause they were doing that fricking beeping and i ddnt have any batteries to replace. which is weird cause they are hardwired.
sure. word of caution; they use a special 'kidde' radio that i think is only supported by the wink hub:
LINK
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Wireless Communication between additional units (upto 12) within a interconnected system without having to run new wiring
Alerts user to replace after 10 years of operation
Voice Alarm announces Fire, when a smoke or fire hazard is detected and announces Warning Carbon Monoxide when a CO hazard is detected.
Combination Alarm detects both Smoke and Carbon Monoxide
Silent Mode Feature Temporarily silences nuisance alarms
Peak Level Memory - Alarm detects 100ppm or higher, the unit will announce Carbon Monoxide Previously Detected to warn of the CO incident, when the Test/Reset button is pressed
I keep waiting for the 3 for $100 sale they have on these from time to time or to go on clearance.
great product from a great company.
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and sell me these for your cost
do you even capitalism bro?
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i have someone in my city that seems to go to HD every day and cleared out everytrhing they have.
hey he left a ton of these on the shelves and is better than me at selling these to people on here.
i've shopped the mctiger store several times on here
i bought a chamberlain garage door system, relay and several go controls (before they went on clearance) and i think a couple other things.
i'm a 'frequent shopper' on his paypal page
eta email me and i'll make you a good deal on some go controls.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:02 am to CAD703X
ramrod,
everyone mistakenly believes the 'hardwired' smoke detectors mean they will never start beeping and that the 9v is just a backup.
not true, the 'hardwire' piece is simply a network for the smoke detectors so they all go off if one goes off.
the batteries will still die like once a year
everyone mistakenly believes the 'hardwired' smoke detectors mean they will never start beeping and that the 9v is just a backup.
not true, the 'hardwire' piece is simply a network for the smoke detectors so they all go off if one goes off.
the batteries will still die like once a year
Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:17 am to CAD703X
just came across this:
refurb schlage connect locks $125 full warranty
Coupon code FALL5 takes off another $5
Schlage customer service is insane. If your lock gets dirty they'll ship you a brand new one.
eta i generally buy them on ebay for around the same price but no warranty and the everyone vilifies me for saving money even though they're NIB most of the time.
i should also point out, schlage didnt bat an eye or ask me for a receipt when i called about a bad unit and sent me *TWO* to replace it even though i wasn't 'under warranty' and let me keep the old one too.
set up an ebay keyword notfication for 'be469' and you'll get plenty of hits coming in every day and can jump on a great deal that way.
refurb schlage connect locks $125 full warranty
Coupon code FALL5 takes off another $5
Schlage customer service is insane. If your lock gets dirty they'll ship you a brand new one.
eta i generally buy them on ebay for around the same price but no warranty and the everyone vilifies me for saving money even though they're NIB most of the time.
i should also point out, schlage didnt bat an eye or ask me for a receipt when i called about a bad unit and sent me *TWO* to replace it even though i wasn't 'under warranty' and let me keep the old one too.
set up an ebay keyword notfication for 'be469' and you'll get plenty of hits coming in every day and can jump on a great deal that way.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:42 am to CAD703X
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i dont disagree but i'm not paying 3-4x as much for it. ya gotta lower your standards to be practical, man.
Time=money
Spending time screwing with interference issues on cheap devices cost more money in the long run.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:11 pm to CAD703X
I still have several extra gocontrol items I need to get rid of as well. Also, leaksmart sensors and ge link br30 bulbs, and probably a few other things email me at Lsucollector@gmail.com if interested in anything.
email me at Lsucollector@gmail.com if interested in anything. 
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