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SaintNation
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Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
Built a home and had them install 5 in-ceiling living room speakers and 4 patio speakers. All wires are ran to my Landry room. I did not purchase an amp at the time as I was trying to keep my cost down. Been 8 months so looking into getting the amp.

Prob is I have no clue about amps and what I need.

What I want to be able to do.
1. Have at least 2 zones. For outside and inside.
2. Be able to listen to music on phone/Bluetooth, listen to radio, listen to TV.
3. Be able to watch outside tv with outside speakers and inside speakers with inside tv.
4. Be able to run all speakers with music/radio at once.
5. Possibly be able to hook up a Bluetooth microphone for patio speakers.

I looked at the Denon amps but not sure if I need to spend $2000 on an amp or if there are better options.

Any help would be appreciated.


bbvdd
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
Curious as to why the wires are run to you laundry room?

Anyway, I have a Denon and love it but I’m only running one zone (media room).


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NOLAGT
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
Look at denon or onkyo (the only 2 I have fooled witth). I prefer denon...they will have some that have a powered zone 2...make sure it’s powered. They have a app you can use to control the AVR. It has HEOS built in and you can link more if you want to add other zones down the line.


BallsEleven
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
How far is the laundry room to the 2 TVs? Distance is a factor when dealing with HDMI cables.

I haven't used them myself but Accessories4Less has great deals on factory refurbed receivers that come with all original packaging and warranty.


NOLAGT
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
I assumed it was close to the main TV. If not look at hdbase-t HDMI over network cables. I have been using some from monoprice for 5 years.


BallsEleven
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hdbase-t HDMI over network cables


I've never heard of this. Are you still able to get good picture with 4k?

I just asked about distance b/c I haven't seen too many floor plans that the laundry room would be real close to where a LR tv (or patio tv for that matter). Heck, when I ran mine back in the fall, I used a 30 ft for the LR and 40 for the patio. The cabinet is literally in the middle of them in the LR. Running up and down walls adds a lot of footage quick, especially since a lot of the houses are 10 ft + ceilings in the main rooms.
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NOLAGT
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I dont have 4K setup on it. It’s 1080p to my projector that is 1080 only. I do plan to get a new faux K projector and try it out. Not spending the $ on a real 4K projector. All my other tv’s are run with a Apple TV or fire tv.

The hdbaset units say they can do 4K...not sure if the ones I have now will.
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LSUperior
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
We've got an Onkyo 656, which is a 7.2 receiver. I have 7 speakers inside in my living room and 2 under my outside patio. The receiver powers them all really easy. With the Onkyo app, you can do everything from your phone. Also, it's a 2 zone, so our kids can be watching tv inside while we are outside listening to Pandora or whatever. I've heard great things about Denon receivers too.


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Hopeful Doc
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4 patio speakers.



How are these arranged? All one patio, or is this like a front/back patio?
Most of the receivers will have 2 sets of posts for outdoor speakers. If you always want all four together, check out this article. If you want to have the option of having one pair on and the other off (running the same source), or if you don't want the hassle of learning with the chance of doing something wrong, get a cheap A/B speaker selector switch.

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1. Have at least 2 zones. For outside and inside.
2. Be able to listen to music on phone/Bluetooth, listen to radio, listen to TV.
3. Be able to watch outside tv with outside speakers and inside speakers with inside tv.
4. Be able to run all speakers with music/radio at once.


3 is your sticking point here. Zone 2 audio can be cheap. Zone 2 HDMI limits your options and increases the price. I made a similar post in another thread admitting I'm probably 4 years behind on what's out today, but the Marantz sr60xx (the 13 is this year's model) will do what you want about as cheap as you'll find and well. The sr50xx (one model down and about a couple hundred bucks cheaper) doesn't have HDMI on zone 2. It does have a 2nd HDMI 'monitor' output, but it's tied to the primary output, so the TV's couldn't show different things unless you bump up to the 6-series (or 7, but that's a waste of your money)

Either their 12 or 13 model introduced multi-room audio functionality that is supposed to be discoverable by Alexa and all that jazz. If you want that, start there. If you don't, you can probably roll back another model or so to save some money on it without losing functionality.

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5. Possibly be able to hook up a Bluetooth microphone for patio speakers.

I don't know of anything that does this natively, but maybe you can find a source with either HDMI or analog audio out that does that?

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I looked at the Denon amps but not sure if I need to spend $2000 on an amp or if there are better options.



I like Denon. Same parent company as Marantz, do they have similar features. Here is the sr6013. It's $800 at a4l. You can save $50 with the 6012 without an obvious loss of the functions you want, but you're buying a 3-year warranty with this one.

I have personally bought 3 receivers from here and have no qualms recommending them. It would have been 2 receivers, but as it turns out, if someone is helping you move and pulls banana plugs out of a speaker and drops them onto a power strip, it is bad for an amp. Or the sr6008, at least (RIP).
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TigerWise
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hdbaset units say they can do 4K


They make baluns that can do 4K. Just read the specs some don't do full 4k.



OP are you sending 4K to both diplays ?


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NOLAGT
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
What about fake K over cat 6 (think that’s what I have). What brand would you rec for that. Doesn’t have to be fancy...just running my projector from my denon.


SaintNation
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
Thanks for all the help guys. To answer some of your questions.

Landry is behind the living(the living room tv is on same wall as Landry from cabinet in Landry room.
I did this so i did not have any electronics in view in my living room.

I’m not sure about the outside speakers. They are rectangle shape and are in each corner of the patio. I’m not sure if they are running different zones

Outside tv is a long way from the living room but I did run a long HDMI to the Landry room as well.

My TVs are smart tv Visio. Nothing special so I don’t hunk I have 4K etc.

I’m looking at some of the options y’all have suggested.


Hopeful Doc
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
A buddy of mine pointed out that I should recommend the Yamaha rx-a1080 for around the same/slightly cheaper than the Marantz with a better app for playing from the phone.

Accessories4less has a filter for Zone 2 HDMI receivers...there's a lot on there that I didn't know about, but you still can't go wrong with Marantz's 6-series if you want to be lazy and it's in your price range.


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TigerWise
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I like Denon they sound really good and with Heos expanding the system is easy. Heos has a great app and imo the only complete product line when it comes to the whole home wifi music streaming category. But they are are expensive compared to similar options with a HDMI zone 2 which I also use in my house. Because of this I went with an Onkyo RZ630. I have 3 powered zones of audio and two HDMI zones. At my cost was almost half the price of a similar Denon.

But a couple of weeks ago Onkyo dropped the price of some models ahead of the new models coming out and I upgraded to a RZ830. This bad boy has some power. My speakers love the added power, it makes a noticable difference. Still have 3 powered zones and 2 HDMI zones and added THX. The reason why I bring this model up is b/c it was a $1300 msrp AVR just a few months ago. It's now selling new for around $500-$600 retail I believe. That's a whole lot of amplifier at that price. Plus the Onkyo controller app is really nice and easy to use.


BallsEleven
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Damn, that is a good find! $499 on Amazon



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VABuckeye
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
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I’m not sure about the outside speakers. They are rectangle shape and are in each corner of the patio. I’m not sure if they are running different zones


Are the speaker wires from the patio to the laundry room labeled? How many speaker wires go to the patio? There should be two 4 conductor wires going out there or four 2 conductor wires going to the speakers. My guess is that they'd be 16 gauge speaker wire. The number of wires going to the patio and the number of conductors in the wire will tell you how it's run.


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bamarep
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
Onkyo has a receiver that will do what you want.

We have a similar set up that our Onkyo handles just fine.


NOLAGT
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That RZ TigerWise posted is a heck of a deal.


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Chitown_Badger
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
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I prefer denon


I'm new to denon but also really like it. The x4400 can be had for 800 bucks and has 3 zones, plenty power, alexa control, easy bluetooth connectivity from any bluetooth device, easy setup, immersive sound, great picture and all the upscaling and sound modes, etc etc
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SG_Geaux
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re: Home Audio Receiver - Need Help
WTF is a Landry room?


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