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Google is making yet another attempt at phone messaging

Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61483 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:02 pm
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Stop us if you've heard this one before: Google is planning to make another mobile messaging push. A report by The Verge shows off its next effort, simply called Chat. What Chat isn't is yet another app; instead, it's a brand name for Universal Profile features in RCS, a standard meant to replace old-school SMS texting with iMessage-like features (minus end-to-end encryption, unfortunately) for everyone. Earlier this year Google said it had 43 carriers and device makes signed on to support RCS, while an updated list shows 55 carriers, 11 OEMS and two operating system distributors: Google and Microsoft (but not Apple, yet).

As a result, Chat's new features will live in the Android Messages app (and require some synchronization, perhaps with QR codes for access on non-phone devices) and use data instead of SMS on your phone plan. Similar to iMessage, users will simply use the Messages app to send a text, and if the person on the other end has support for RCS, they'll get the richer version of the message automatically, and if not, they'll get an SMS. You can get an idea of how it works and the features to expect from the MWC Americas demo shown above.

As for Allo, Google exec Anil Subharwal said the company is "pausing" work on that. This seems to cut out any future for that messaging app as its team moves over to Messages, although the Duo video chat service is continuing on and Hangouts will keep its focus on adding Slack-like enterprise features.

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This one finally sounds like it might be what people have wanted. I just don't understand why they felt the need for widespread RCS support to make this happen.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 3:07 pm to
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I just don't understand why they felt the need for widespread RCS support to make this happen.
There is a much more in-depth article at The Verge that goes a little bit into this.

Basically, without widespread RCS (or similar carrier tech) support, you're talking about yet another chat app, which Google has tried and tried without success. They could, of course, build a chat app with text fallback like iMessage, but the carriers apparently aren't very fond of that approach since it undermines their ability to sell services to businesses. And ultimately the carriers decide what apps are pre-installed on Android phones, so most of them would probably not allow Google to do something like iMessage. And with the RCS business messaging market expected to be valued at over $70billion by 2021, pushing carriers to support RCS is likely the path of least resistance for Google to fix Android messaging.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66433 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 3:33 pm to
Gchat was awesome. They should have never touched it.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 3:55 pm to
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Gchat was awesome. They should have never touched it.


is it still not?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66433 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:05 pm to
They changed it to hangouts. Changed some features and I quit using it as much.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:20 pm to
Until it's supported by Verizon and AT&T it's hard for me to get excited.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:20 pm to
i use it all the time. i still consider hangouts to be gchat
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 4:22 pm to
Yeah I don't really even recall any difference between gchat and hangouts anymore.
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
1877 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:19 am to
I've always liked Hangouts and wouldn't mind making it my dedicated app, but of course the issue is always not enough of my family/friends using it
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:53 am to
I didnt understand any of this or how it works. Ha!

I dont use imessage. Just text people. I do use the BBM app some since it's supported on andriod and apple.

So whats the dumbdown difference between gchat-hangouts/RCS/imessage/bbm? Heck kik, whatsup, skype, etc

Other than different companies.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:27 am to
So my question is, if I'm a poor, and on a MVNO that uses Verizon towers, will I get rcs when Verizon switches it on?
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18293 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 9:30 am to
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widespread RCS support


This will probably be another one of those "widespread support overseas, but at&t and Verizon want you to be stuck in 1998, so they still haven't supported RCS" moment... Until at&t supports it in 2026 and Verizon rolls it out as a brand new feature in 2031
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 1:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 4:56 pm
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