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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:41 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:41 am to

I'm with you. Trying to put the pieces together myself.

I think cat6 is overkill. All you need is 5e.

Those ubuiquiti devices look legit. A better breakdown would be nice particularly when you take into account needing an outdoor one.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 8:46 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:32 am to
what is the best app to walk around & determine wifi signal strength?
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13832 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:57 am to
quote:

what is the best app to walk around & determine wifi signal strength?


I use "wifi analyzer" on android.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:41 am to
Ordered my stuff last night. We'll see how it goes Wednesday when it arrives and I get it setup. Hopefully all according to plan. I went cheap as possible ($60).
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 10:54 am to
It's a great idea, but it's difficult in practice. There's too many options, and none of them are really "best." I'll try to draw a rudimentary diagram and put in several choices for each piece of equipment. But budget and required feature sets play such a big role that a universal diagram isn't really a good way to approach it.
Posted by benstudley
Raleigh, NC
Member since Jan 2004
105 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:19 am to
quote:

I'll be interested to see how you like the watch a month from now. Takes a bit of time to get used to wear.

I've had it for about a week... I feel used to it. I'm really only using it as a watch and for notifications. I can't exactly talk to it at work.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:50 am to
quote:

I feel used to it. I'm really only using it as a watch and for notifications. I can't exactly talk to it at work.


wear made me ditch textra for hangouts. the integration is too nice not to. i like how you can see the pics someone is sending you on your watch with hangouts..you cant do that with textra.

notifications and GPS are the killer apps right now.

/hijack.


back to the original thread; I'm really liking the ubiquiti outdoor access point more and more. it seems like that may be more cost effective and provide further range since you can put it up high on your house outside.

lots of reviews stating hotels buy multiple dozens of those outdoor access points to get WiFi to properly saturate the entire complex and they rate the ubiquiti products VERY HIGHLY esp. with how inexpensive they are compared to cisco, etc.

i'm going to draw a diagram of my house with where i want to put the access points as a start. of course thats meaningless without a proper wifi analysis first..i dont even know where i want my router to live yet.

i still dont understand how the signal 'switches' from the router to the access point seamlessly.

anyone explain that? its got to 'hop' to the other device at some point right?
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 11:51 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:55 am to
Thanks doc.

Just do a normal setup that we can all understand.

You don't have to put all the choices, just say "access point needed that will handle x" or "wireless router/modem that handles x"

We all have tv's, and kids, and all have phone's, many tablets, desktop, couple of smart tv's, and so on.

Now they have nests, deadbots, security cams, surround sounds etc.

So a setup that handles all of that and we 'll can get service from one end of the house to another.

Maybe even a high budget (do this and your good for years) and then a nice but low end option (this will work but may need upgrading if X happens)

This has potential to help everyone and everyone could add onto the original with their own ideas..
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2493 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:58 am to
Yes, once you get out of range from the router/access point you're associated with your device will switch over to the AP providing the strongest signal. It's pretty seamless.
Posted by benstudley
Raleigh, NC
Member since Jan 2004
105 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:59 am to
quote:

wear made me ditch textra for hangouts. the integration is too nice not to. i like how you can see the pics someone is sending you on your watch with hangouts..you cant do that with textra.

notifications and GPS are the killer apps right now

What other integration does hangouts offer?

If hangouts adds a quick reply feature, I'll switch back. To me, I'd rather have quick reply than having a picture on the watch. I don't want to open the app to send a quick reply text.

I wish TD had PMs. Maybe we should start/revive an android wear thread.

Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4083 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:26 pm to
Cad, get the ubiquiti and don't look back.

I have one in the attic above my garage to supply wifi to my wifi garage door opener and wifi sprinkler controller.

The thing has been bullet proof for the last 10 months and the range is unbelievable!

In addition to the reviews, I bought this thing so I could use the POE feature so I wouldn't need to run an outlet to whatever device I had to put up there.

This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:50 pm to
Did you get the indoor or outdoor access point?
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4083 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:55 pm to
This is what I went with.

LINK
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6030 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

i still dont understand how the signal 'switches' from the router to the access point seamlessly.


I think the key is to make sure the SSID and security passphrase is the same for your router and all APs. Since only the router does any network registration (assign IP address/DNS servers, etc) there's no transition from one AP to another. Think of it as the same when driving and switching from one cell tower to another.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2493 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I think the key is to make sure the SSID and security passphrase is the same for your router and all APs. Since only the router does any network registration (assign IP address/DNS servers, etc) there's no transition from one AP to another. Think of it as the same when driving and switching from one cell tower to another.




It's a little more than key to making it work. It's required. Most SOHO Access Point setup wizards will pull the ssid and security info from the computer. Most of you guys are way over complicating this.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Jimbeaux28


i think i'm going to spend about $150 and go for the outdoor version. that may meet my needs without buying a separate 'smoke alarm' indoor access point.

if not, no big deal to add the $50 indoor unit as well.

all of this is speculation until i actually analyze wifi at the new place.

i guess i should focus on the termite inspection and electrical issues first
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6030 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

if not, no big deal to add the $50 indoor unit as well.


Where are you finding the UAP for $50? Also, did you notice that the UAP and UAP-LR only have 10/100 ethernet ports? Have to step up to the Pro or AC version to get 10/100/1000.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:21 pm to
Amazon marketplace has new in box ones for $50 shipped.

Yes I noticed the lack of gig in the lower models.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 6:31 am
Posted by warr09
Georgia by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
800 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:33 pm to
I went ahead and ordered my wife a Surface Pro 3 today and all the docking station and other hardware to set up in her sewing room. I am going to wait until the beginning of March to buy and install all my stuff. Thanks all for the insight and info. You have been a huge help.

I would do the little emojis but to date I have yet to figure out how to do them on my phone.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91994 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 6:54 am to
OK so I think I might have a cheaper and better solution: turning my existing ac56u router into an access point.

T-Mobile just sent me the mac-daddy Asus router with the antennas for free to enjoy WiFi calling so why not put my other $70 router into ap mode?

Pros-
- cheaper than the ubqiquiti
- supports gig Ethernet
- supports 2.4, 5ghz and b/g/n/ac

Cons-
No PoE so I'll have to make a network drop and put this on a shelf somewhere rather than on the ceiling.

I'll finish up this experiment and report back if this is a better/cheaper way to add additional range and not compromise your current router's capabilities.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 6:57 am
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