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Custom PCBs and Assembly Costs

Posted on 10/30/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 1:04 pm
I know enough to be dangerous. I designed some circuitry for some custom LED blink magic for some 3D printed Mardi Gras medallions. The plan is to make about 10 of them and I wanted to reduce the amount of soldering and pain I would have to go through. I decided to have them do some assembly for me, so was using some SMT (small) components that I wouldn't be able to do (easily) at my home.

Holy moley. The cost is craaazy. I was prepared to spend up to $200 on this, but the total cost with shipping was about $350. $75 of that was tariff-related. The sad thing is that there are no US shops that can even get close (that I've found).

I've simplified the design and am just going to try to get custom PCBs which will reduce the soldering required, but still have me doing more than I want to do.

Does anyone else dabble in this stuff?
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 4:23 pm to
I normally use JLPCB, but I just get the boards made from them, I don’t get components supplied/installed by them. If I had to guess, that might be where a lot of your cost is coming from.

My last order for 10 boards was like $50 shipped if I remember right.

Shipping takes a while though
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/30/26 at 5:58 pm to
I designed a ton of these. I don't think I've ever spent more than $10, but I always do my own soldering...



If you just want them to blink and/or make pretty colors on leds, just use a ardurino like a d1 mini and put wled on in. You can get 10 D1 mini's for $30-$40, the PCB's for $15 and terminal connectors for $5. Don't know what kind of leds you want, but they are also cheap. Grand total, less than $100.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 10/30/26 at 6:47 pm to
Thanks for the responses. I'm using ESP32-C6s to drive LEDs in various patterns/animations. I'm also using its USB-C to charge a 3.7V LiPo battery. I don't think the D1 Mini can do that, but its footprint is also larger than what I'd like as well. I have a lot to learn about what's available, but I think I've got what I need.

Thanks for the WLED reference. I wasn't familiar. I think for now I'll stick with what I have, though, because it achieves the result.

Thanks again, all.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2412 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:02 pm to
I have been using Dirty PCBs for years. Cheap and good quality boards.

Assembled boards have different tariffs than bareboards. I’ve just been buying boards and solder them in my toaster oven
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 7:31 pm to
I ordered 20 95mm x 95mm from JLC for $30 plus whatever tariff fees I’ll have to pay once it gets here. Estimated at $8, so $40ish.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 10:16 am to
Please show the end result after you're done. I'd like to see them. Cool project but super pricey per unit!
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:12 pm to
The idea was to make lighted Mardi Gras throws (or actually just nicer custom ones for friends). I've spent the last year learning how to make things on my 3D printer and so it kind of naturally turned to digital electronics. It's been decades since I've done anything in that field, so I bought some breadboards, power supply circuits, etc. and just developed some simple arrays of LEDs using Arduino to program patterns. I had it in my mind that I would just manually solder components and design 3d printed supports for the various components. I decided I didn't want to solder that much so I figured I'd give PCB development a go. This is my first PCB so there's a greater than zero percent that I've somehow screwed something up, but it was cheap enough that I didn't care. So, we'll see how it goes.

Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3881 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 1:51 pm to
I haven’t sent in for a custom board for home use in 7-8 years since Ali express sells $1 modules for just about everything.

Price is in the design if you’re doing anything tricky. Don’t imagine drawing your own would be more than $20 in today’s dollars.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 4:00 pm to
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That's it? 53 thru hole pins? That's a 10 min solder job. TOPS. (close to 5 mins)
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 5:12 pm to
Gotta crawl before you can walk, Lonnie. I hate soldering and the prospect of wiring component to component (as in wire to wire or wire to pad) is more of a pain in the arse than a simple thru-hole solder connection. I've got 20 boards. A PCB solves a lot of that issue.

But thanks for the support.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3881 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 6:17 pm to
You can use lithium batteries with built in charge management, install WLED on a tiny esp32 board and just use 5050 pixels, can even make an input button to flip through presets.

No custom board, very little soldering.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1629 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 6:33 pm to
An esp32 with WLED to blink 8 single color LEDs in a mardi gras throw seems like massive overkill.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 6:43 pm to
These will be given to people I know. They won’t be thrown. Keep the info coming. I know very little and so now I can look up 5050 pixels, etc.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3881 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 7:17 pm to
ws2812c pixels should work 3.5-4.3v range. That allows use of maybe 75-80% of the charge before things might turn orange or get wonky. Esp32 works in that with a shottky diode.

5050 is just a size usu max like 35mA. 2020 is smaller and maybe 5mA max but WLED handles all config.

Can have up to 4 momentary buttons with long and short press doing different things. Prob want a toggle power button.

Esp32 boards come with through holes.

Not sure if ws2812c come prewired/housed. The individual pixel strings that I have or have even seen are ws2811 based.

Edit ws2812b comes in 50 pixel strings and shows Vdd 3.5-5.3v so should work. $10 for a whole string so no risk. Easy to cut and modify. Pixels already housed.

Ali express has an esp32 dev board with an 18650 holder/manager already on it for $6.50. Prob need to read up on it but should work. Would need to de-solder the on/off toggle and move it probably.
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 8:10 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 11/2/26 at 8:55 pm to
Awesome, thanks!
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3881 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 6:30 am to
Actually maybe think of liability. I’m not familiar with “throws” but I was thinking something along the lines of a music festival totem. I’m probably wrong.

If it’s something people will wear or even store at home, maybe stick to UL, CE, etc stamped power pack and definitely not DIY LiPo as that needs engineered enclosure tolerance.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
37070 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:34 am to
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Gotta crawl before you can walk, Lonnie. I hate soldering and the prospect of wiring component to component (as in wire to wire or wire to pad) is more of a pain in the arse than a simple thru-hole solder connection. I've got 20 boards. A PCB solves a lot of that issue.


But that's what the pcb board is for. You are not soldering the components to components. You are just making the final component connection to the board itself. The traces act as the wires. You order the boards, get the components, drop the components thru the holes and solder them in place. Easy peezey. I'm willing to bet I could do all 20 boards in 1-2 hours tops (closer to the low side of that figure...)

I'm a merit badge counselor for the Electronics Merit Badge. I do this with 11-16 year old scouts with short attention spans all the time. It's simple. It really is. I promise.

Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5650 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:41 am to
Yes, I thought I said that. I got the PCB board so soldering would be easy. I wanted to avoid non-through-hole soldering.

I'll watch the video. I appreciate all Boy Scout Merit Badge Counselors as I used to be one!
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8720 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 10:38 am to
quote:

An esp32 with WLED to blink 8 single color LEDs in a mardi gras throw seems like massive overkill


Agreed, ATtiny45 would fit that bill for pennies, should even be able to handle addressable RBG LED'S.
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