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Congress Working To Ban DJI Drones
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:31 pm
Will essentially kill the drone business in the US because DJI makes the most reliable and popular drones on the market. Glad they are focusing on the real issues.
LINK
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:31 pm to FairhopeTider
Damn the article says it may ground existing drones. That sucks, I spent a lot of money on mine.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:14 pm to FairhopeTider
The Phantom Pro is/was the perfect drone for ortho photography. Used one for a few years with Pix4D processing of many sites in coastal LA.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 10:22 pm to FairhopeTider
That article doesn't explain why the ban is needed, do you know?
Posted on 6/15/24 at 2:07 am to Chromdome35
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That article doesn't explain why the ban is needed, do you know?
I think it is about (un)warranted fear of Chinese made drones.
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“The advancement of my bipartisan bills, the Countering CCP Drones Act and the FACT Act is a win for America’s national security and a win for Americans whose data and critical infrastructure has been collected and monitored by our adversary Communist China. Congress must use every tool at our disposal to stop Communist China’s monopolistic control over the drone market and telecommunications infrastructure and build up America’s industrial capacity,” said Congresswoman Elise Stefanik.
https://stefanik.house.gov/2024/3/stefanik-s-ccp-drones-act-and-fact-act-advance-through-e-c-committee-following-markup
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:32 am to Chromdome35
quote:There is no empirical evidence that DJI is sending data back to the Chinese Motherland. This is text-book paranoia. Why is DJI being singled out when your living room, workplace, and automobiles are already filled with Chinese technology?
That article doesn't explain why the ban is needed, do you know?
DJI Drones: NO
10,000,000 Dashcams: NO PROBLEM
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SHENZHEN, China, April 23, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- DJI, the world's leader in civilian drones and aerial imaging technology, Monday released the results of an independent report scrutinizing DJI's data practices that concludes DJI drone users have control over how their data is collected, stored and transmitted.
The report analyzed drones and software independently obtained in the United States late last year, and confirmed DJI did not access photos, videos or flight logs generated by the drones unless drone operators voluntarily chose to share them.
"This is the first time DJI has allowed outsiders to examine its proprietary computer code, and the result is the first independent verification of what we have said all along: DJI provides robust tools to help our customers keep their data private," said Michael Perry, DJI Managing Director, North America. "This comprehensive report clearly debunks unsubstantiated rumors about our products and assures our customers that they can continue flying DJI drones with confidence."
The report by San Francisco-based Kivu Consulting, Inc., was based on a first-of-its-kind detailed examination of DJI drones, mobile apps and servers as well as the data streams they transmit and receive. Kivu's engineers comprehensively examined the code repositories for DJI's mobile apps and tested whether DJI's drones could transmit sensitive user data without connecting to the DJI app. DJI had no input into Kivu's findings or conclusions.
"Kivu's analysis of the drones and the flight control system (drone, hardware controller, GO 4 mobile app) concluded that users have control over the types of data DJI drones collect, store, and transmit," wrote Douglas Brush, Kivu's Director, Cyber Security Investigations, in a summary available for download here.
"For some types of data, such as media files and flight logs, the drone user must affirmatively initiate transmission to any remote server," Brush wrote. "For other types, such as initial location checks or diagnostic data, the user may prevent transmission by deactivating settings in the GO 4 application and/or disabling the Internet connection."
Kivu independently bought DJI drones as well as iOS and Android devices in the United States, and downloaded the DJI GO 4 mobile apps. Kivu set up systems to capture all data transmitted through iOS and Android devices running DJI GO 4, and reviewed source code, application data, server addresses, and data generated during operation.
In recent months, reports have emerged claiming DJI drones can transmit sensitive user data without the user's knowledge or consent. None of those claims have been supported by evidence beyond speculation. Kivu's report affirmatively shows DJI enables the protection of personal data, and claims to the contrary are demonstrably false.
DJI continues to emphasize its efforts to resolve concerns about data security, and to assure customers they can continue to rely on DJI products as the most stable, reliable and innovative drone platform.
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This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 5:53 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:03 pm to tigerpawl
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This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:41 pm to tigerpawl
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DJI, the world's leader in civilian drones and aerial imaging technology, Monday released the results of an independent report scrutinizing DJI's data practices that concludes DJI drone users have control over how their data is collected, stored and transmitted.
Im sure DJI, who is under scrutiny for being Chinese-owned, did not influence the selection of this "independent report" at all...
Buy American-made drones, you commies.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:39 pm to Roy Curado
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Buy American-made drones, you commies.
If American drones were worth a shite, I’d have no problem with it.
What information are DJI drones getting that one couldn’t get on Google Earth? I’m sure this has nothing to do with politicians just trying to score points by going after China.
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:59 pm to FairhopeTider
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What information are DJI drones getting that one couldn’t get on Google Earth? I’m sure this has nothing to do with politicians just trying to score points by going after China.
This isn’t a DJI thing, but a drones in general thing. God knows how many hi def videos are on YouTube that are high def videos of critical infrastructure that have over flight bans that people do it anyway.
Drone flight laws in general need serious rework and restrictions. How many people even obey must maintain visual contact with them?
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:22 pm to Twincam
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Back to top Posted on 6/14/24 at 7:31 pm to FairhopeTider Damn the article says it may ground existing drones. That sucks, I spent a lot of money on mine.
Extremely unlikely. The current language of the CCCPDA would require the FCC to deny all future FCC license requests for DJI. That would only affect future DJI FCC applications. Nothing in the language of the bill would require the FCC to revoke any current DJI licenses. This is directly from congresswoman Stefanik’s office.
I fly professionally and have been keeping a close eye on this for a while now. The head of the DSPA (Drone Service Providers Alliance) stays in direct contact with the FAA and Congresswoman Stefanik and that came straight from him.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:29 pm to Dam Guide
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This isn’t a DJI thing, but a drones in general thing. God knows how many hi def videos are on YouTube that are high def videos of critical infrastructure that have over flight bans that people do it anyway
DJI has GeoFencing built into their drones that strictly prohibit flight over sensitive areas. You have to file paperwork and show clearance through the FAA to fly these areas. This past September I was doing a hot air balloon festival and there is a sheriffs office/ county jail about 300 yards from the site where the festival was. The area above the jail was geofenced and I had to show clearance to fly in the airspace and provide a confirmation letter on my company letterhead from the sheriffs department with approval to fly that airspace.
There are rules and regulations that prevent what you said from happening. And that was just for a small county jail in Mississippi.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:11 am to im4LSU
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DJI has GeoFencing built into their drones that strictly prohibit flight over sensitive areas. You have to file paperwork and show clearance through the FAA to fly these areas. This past September I was doing a hot air balloon festival and there is a sheriffs office/ county jail about 300 yards from the site where the festival was. The area above the jail was geofenced and I had to show clearance to fly in the airspace and provide a confirmation letter on my company letterhead from the sheriffs department with approval to fly that airspace. There are rules and regulations that prevent what you said from happening. And that was just for a small county jail in Mississippi.
I get that as I have a DJI drones and know of several areas where the geofence is still lacking. Have seen cops interview people who have flown there.
DJI drones and ease of use for general public is by far outpacing needed rules and regulations.
It’s not like the average drone pilot even follows the existing rules anyway.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 10:19 am
Posted on 6/17/24 at 11:59 am to FairhopeTider
So you are pro-Chinese surveillance of American assets?
Google Earth does not have updated imagery; most critical assets are blurred out, etc.
Real-time data is what is of interests to the Chinese. Real-time data at chemical manufacturing plants, military institutions, other critical infrastructure facilities, etc.
List of American made drones... LINK /
Google Earth does not have updated imagery; most critical assets are blurred out, etc.
Real-time data is what is of interests to the Chinese. Real-time data at chemical manufacturing plants, military institutions, other critical infrastructure facilities, etc.
List of American made drones... LINK /
Posted on 6/17/24 at 2:35 pm to Roy Curado
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So you are pro-Chinese surveillance of American assets?
There is zero evidence to support that this is happening. It’s all pure speculation.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:55 pm to im4LSU
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the widespread deployment of Chinese-manufactured UAS in our nation’s key sectors is a national security concern, and it carries the risk of unauthorized access to systems and data,” said Bryan Vorndran, assistant director of the FBI’s cyber division.
LINK
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:03 pm to Roy Curado
Our company banned the purchase of new DJI drones. We have a DJI Matrice 300 RTK that is "grandfathered" in that they still allow us to fly. Going forward will likely go with a Skydio.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:16 pm to Roy Curado
That’s your “evidence”?
I would agree, it is a concern. Still doesn’t mean there is actual evidence.
risk =/= evidence
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is a national security concern
I would agree, it is a concern. Still doesn’t mean there is actual evidence.
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and it carries the risk
risk =/= evidence
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:33 pm to im4LSU
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risk =/= evidence
It would be pretty stupid to just sit on that level of risk and wait for evidence. DJI is a liability just waiting to strike if it hasn't already. Debating and planning for that risk is worth doing now.
It's like Tik Tok, I get that a lot of people have businesses and careers based around these products, but we need to have these discussions about what level of regulation is necessary for these type of products.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:25 pm to Dam Guide
I need the govt to step in and replace my spark with an Analfi thermal.
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