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cancelled cable TV, got a nastygram from comcast a week later

Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:40 pm
coincidence?

quote:

You've used 90% of
your data plan this month
You've used 90% of your 1024 GB monthly data usage
plan. As a reminder, you’ve used up your courtesy months.
So if you go over on your data plan, you will be charged
$10 for each 50 GB of data added, up to a
maximum of $200.



so i cranked netflix down to "low" quality and i'm trying to figure out how to do the same with youtube since my little 3yo is always watching something.


amazing. i can't imagine how much worse it would be if i was still using kodi. being snowed in the little one watched certain movies on plex dozens of times.


eta my 'courtesy months' happened like 2 years ago when i was under the 300GB data cap. frick YOU COMCAST. NOW I'M BRINGING NETFLIX SHOWS THE KIDS WATCH FREQUENTLY OVER TO PLEX TO AVOID YOUR bullshite DATA bullshite.

thanks for making me even more of a pirate to avoid your shitty made-up data cap crap.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57443 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
1024GBs is like a weekend to me.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
869 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:49 pm to
The only reason I am staying on a 50 mbps internet plan, is because I have unlimited data usage through ATT. If I wanted to go to 100 mbps I'd get capped at 1 TB/month.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

thanks for making me even more of a pirate to avoid your shitty made-up data cap crap.
Yet you still strongly identify with the political party that is encouraging this and even worse behavior by ISPs.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:01 pm to
my buddy lives in a neighborhood close to downtown here (Sylvan Park) and he's paying $45/mo for google fiber 100/100. he says GIG is $20/mo more but its not worth it to him and that as more people sign up in his neighborhood, the rate keeps dropping

i get a measly 12/up and a shitty data cap. somehow i was always at 90% 2/3 of the way through the month when it was 300GB and now magically i'm at 90% of 1,024GB just 10 months later

and this is with a huge bulk of tv viewing going through my local server.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Yet you still strongly identify with the political party that is encouraging this and even worse behavior by ISPs.


what does net neurality have to do with monthly data caps??

thats kind of like the ISP 'nuclear option' to control what you're doing on the webz. i don't see how NN would help this in any possible way.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Yet you still strongly identify with the political party that is encouraging this and even worse behavior by ISPs.


Data caps have nothing to do with Net Neutrality and have been part of most companies billing for several years now.

If they start throttling. You have a complaint but they can cap and charge all they want even with NN.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:45 pm to


fwiw. We're heavy Plex users as well. Thankfully they offer unlimited for $5/month more. But like I said in another one of your threads, my bill keeps getting bumped by additional $5/month every few months with zero warning or explanation.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
869 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:29 pm to
I do a fair amount of streaming, but surprisingly a large component of my data usage is upload not download. This would have to be coming from the small army of Nest Cameras that I have around the house...all of which are uploading to their cloud recording service.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25590 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:48 pm to
aren't you the guy with all the lights and cameras and pretty much your whole house using data all the time? what did you expect?

I haven't gone over my data cap yet, and we stream on 2-3 tvs at a time, on top of whatever my wife is farting around with on her phone, and the kids on the tablets. What are you doing to use that much data?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125416 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:00 pm to
Elections have consequences

You don't like NN well there you go
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125416 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

what does net neurality have to do with monthly data caps?? thats kind of like the ISP 'nuclear option' to control what you're doing on the webz. i don't see how NN would help this in any possible way.


in a free market ISPs would be force to ditch them for competition.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Elections have consequences

You don't like NN well there you go


WTF do data caps have to do with NN?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125416 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

WTF do data caps have to do with NN?


See my post above

Its also why zero data and fast lanes that won't hurt your cap will be a thing without NN soon.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

what does net neurality have to do with monthly data caps??
quote:

Data caps have nothing to do with Net Neutrality
Data caps have EVERYTHING to do with NN. The fact that a lot of you don't see that is quite a problem for the future of the internet.

Data caps do absolutely nothing to help ISPs manage their networks. The ONLY reason data caps have been implemented is to set an arbitrary limit on the viability of cutting the cord, as this thread is evidence of. You have already crippled your own Netflix experience as a response, which should make a competing service by Comcast much more attractive, assuming it isn't subject to the cap (like their regular pay TV offering).

This is the exact problem that NN principles hope to avoid. How can you think data caps have nothing to do with NN?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

aren't you the guy with all the lights and cameras and pretty much your whole house using data all the time? what did you expect?


dude how much data do you think it takes to turn light bulbs on and off?

i have zero working web cameras at the moment. i just don't have enough use cases to keep them going.

quote:

I haven't gone over my data cap yet, and we stream on 2-3 tvs at a time, on top of whatever my wife is farting around with on her phone, and the kids on the tablets. What are you doing to use that much data?


4 kids and 2 adults. my 16yo daughter is always sitting on her bed working on homework and binge watching something or other in her room.

my 18yo son trades crypto and watches too much youtube on what rice to add to his car next.

i'll grab a few movies per month and binge watch the occasional netflix series..seems like more and more they are in 4K.

sonos speakers are constantly streaming some station or other all day.


the 9yo is constantly making youtube videos and uploading them and watching shite on the TV in her room.

the 3yo is the terrorist. he's either watching stuff on the old ipad2 or we're parking him in front of his 70th viewing of "Secret Life of Pets" so we can get some projects done around the house. he watches crap on youtube as well. gotta get the SO to go for Plex first before one of those other options because half the time the tv is just running and nobody is even in the room.

i looked at my comcast data usage for last 6 months and had no idea i was hitting close to 800GB each month prior to this.

frickers.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:08 pm to
quote:


in a free market ISPs would be force to ditch them for competition.


kinda like how google fiber neighborhoods here don't have a cap? unfortunately i'm out in the sticks.

so again, how does NN have anything to do with that?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125416 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

4 kids and 2 adults. my 16yo daughter is always sitting on her bed working on homework and binge watching something or other in her room. my 18yo son trades crypto and watches too much youtube on what rice to add to his car next. i'll grab a few movies per month and binge watch the occasional netflix series..seems like more and more they are in 4K. sonos speakers are constantly streaming some station or other all day. the 9yo is constantly making youtube videos and uploading them and watching shite on the TV in her room. the 3yo is the terrorist. he's either watching stuff on the old ipad2 or we're parking him in front of his 70th viewing of "Secret Life of Pets" so we can get some projects done around the house. he watches crap on youtube as well. gotta get the SO to go for Plex first before one of those other options because half the time the tv is just running and nobody is even in the room. i looked at my comcast data usage for last 6 months and had no idea i was hitting close to 800GB each month prior to this. frickers.


How could you not know the basics of data consumption? Aren't you an IT guy or tech nerd
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

This is the exact problem that NN principles hope to avoid. How can you think data caps have nothing to do with NN?


i'm so confused. people living in the little 'google fiber' pockets around nashville where they've expanded to don't have data caps and thats in a 'post NN' world.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

thats kind of like the ISP 'nuclear option' to control what you're doing on the webz. i don't see how NN would help this in any possible way.


DUDE!@#$


NN, in a nutshell, is a set of principles to prevent ISPs from controlling how we use the internet. You admit that data caps are a way for ISPs to control what we do on the internet, and you don't see the connection?!
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