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Amazon devices will soon automatically share your Internet with neighbors

Posted on 5/30/21 at 10:44 pm
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 10:44 pm
ARS Technica article

quote:

If you use Alexa, Echo, or any other Amazon device, you have only 10 days to opt out of an experiment that leaves your personal privacy and security hanging in the balance.

On June 8, the merchant, Web host, and entertainment behemoth will automatically enroll the devices in Amazon Sidewalk. The new wireless mesh service will share a small slice of your Internet bandwidth with nearby neighbors who don’t have connectivity and help you to their bandwidth when you don’t have a connection.

By default, Amazon devices including Alexa, Echo, Ring, security cams, outdoor lights, motion sensors, and Tile trackers will enroll in the system. And since only a tiny fraction of people take the time to change default settings, that means millions of people will be co-opted into the program whether they know anything about it or not.


This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1382 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:14 am to
If you don't want to have to read the article to figure out how to opt out
quote:

Fortunately, turning Sidewalk off is relatively painless. It involves:

Opening the Alexa app

Opening More and selecting Settings

Selecting Account Settings

Selecting Amazon Sidewalk

Turning Amazon Sidewalk Off


Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:12 am to
but, "muh iPhone does the same thing!"


How much per month will they pay me to put this device in my house? I'll consider it when the checks start flowing to pay for this data.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1382 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:37 am to
quote:

but, "muh iPhone does the same thing!"


Not sure why you're bringing the iPhone up here, but yes, it's called Find My.

quote:

How much per month will they pay me to put this device in my house? I'll consider it when the checks start flowing to pay for this data.


I opted out and will be replacing my Echos if this gets any bigger, but FWIW the data is allegedly limited to a small amount. It's not like it's gonna let your neighbor hop on your wifi and watch Netflix all night.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by RadicalRedhead
Member since May 2021
119 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:40 pm to
I opted out by not having Amazon devices in my home
Posted by KTrain915
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Feb 2010
650 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:10 pm to
I'm more worried about a gateway to my network being open then the amount of data being used.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1382 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 8:38 pm to
Same
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3187 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 10:11 pm to
I don’t show to have that as a setting on my Alexa
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
773 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:02 am to
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I don't see privacy discussed too much on here and I'd be interested to hear some different perspectives.

That's because "most" people in America truly don't care about privacy. They say they do. They complain about their privacy being misused. But we have to admit that most will give up their "private" info too easily. Whether to buy something on the internet, signing up for free access to sites, to whatever.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

That's because "most" people in America truly don't care about privacy. They say they do. They complain about their privacy being misused. But we have to admit that most will give up their "private" info too easily. Whether to buy something on the internet, signing up for free access to sites, to whatever.



I've had someone tell me they love getting targeted ads. Though that person has the least common sense of anyone I know and they're a pure consumer/robot.

We need to spread awareness. One must be careful though, reveal to some people how much they are being spied on and they want to shoot the messenger. Deep down they know it is an invasion of privacy but they can't give up the convenience.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12740 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 3:54 pm to
Highjack, are there any similar devices to the Echo Show or the Google Nest/other smart displays that can use a battery? Most I've seen are wired, and I was thinking about getting one for my home office that I could also take out on the deck, in the yard etc to use as a bluetooth speaker.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6450 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:45 pm to
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If you don't want to have to read the article to figure out how to opt out quote: Fortunately, turning Sidewalk off is relatively painless. It involves: Opening the Alexa app Opening More and selecting Settings Selecting Account Settings Selecting Amazon Sidewalk Turning Amazon Sidewalk Off



Is this how it works with the Fire Stick?

I don’t see those options on the Dire Stick.

After some Google searching, Firesticks aren’t a part of this.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 7:40 pm
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:48 am to
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This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 8:56 am
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2466 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 6:17 am to
Thanks for the prompt. I disabled that setting.

A bit more from Lon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbdtW-JkzFM
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66445 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:43 am to
I disabled as well. Thanks!
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5140 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

I don’t show to have that as a setting on my Alexa


Me either
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