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2012 MacBook Pro basically unusable after latest update

Posted on 9/30/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 6:20 pm
I had been purposefully not updating my mac, but Monday night it auto updated and today it’s so slow it’s just about unusable. I’m curious about If I can revert back or somthing. I really am not in a position to buy a new laptop, but I realize this one is 8 years old.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 7:11 pm to
frick apple for doing this shite all the time.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2109 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 7:21 pm to
You can restore from a time machine backup if you have one. If not, you can boot to system recovery and download the MacOS that came with it.

if you go the system recovery route, reboot it and hold down command R
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 7:33 pm to
How dare they create a machine that can last for 8 years
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:01 pm to
I have a 2013 Macbook Pro and it seems like it hasn't slowed down at all. Maybe something went wrong with the update?

You should be using time machine. You could roll back and try again, if you did.

Also, lol at these people acting like it's unheard of for a Windows laptop to slow down after 8 years.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Also, lol at these people acting like it's unheard of for a Windows laptop to slow down after 8 years.


They wouldn’t be slow...they would already be dead.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Also, lol at these people acting like it's unheard of for a Windows laptop to slow down after 8 years.
lol the 2011 alienware machine I bought for my son actually became FASTER when I updated it to Windows 10 and in fact provides flawless 4K HDR delivery to all my connected devices and HD to 3-4 friends connecting remotely simultaneously.

I also have an ipad that worked perfectly fine for my kids to play games and watch videos on until apple forced me to update it which then turned into a brick immediately.

So there's that...
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:15 pm to
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They wouldn’t be slow...they would already be dead.
ok right.

Microsoft sped up older hardware when upgrading from XP to Windows 7 and again to Windows 10.

Facts are stubborn things.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/30/20 at 9:36 pm to
Come on dude, you're better than this.

My mom's Toyota broke down but her Ford never did. This must be indisputable evidence of.. ?

I think 8 years is a reasonably good lifespan for a daily driver. Most people in corporate settings come begging for a new laptop once theirs gets around 3 years old.

The one Alienware that I worked on had overheating issues. It seemed manageable after redoing the thermal paste, but it was a big chunky laptop that overheated on soft surfaces. I am not going to make broad stroke judgements about the brand based on that one experience. Alienware obviously puts good components in there.

edit: Microsoft hit a home run with Windows 10, btw. I agree that it's a good OS. I am personally a Linux/OSX guy but Windows 10 is great, especially in a corporate environment. There's still way more driver and overheating issues that crop up than there should be - particularly with the higher wattage thunderbolt laptops.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:53 pm to
Apples are made to die rapidly. I would never buy a Mac.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18236 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:08 pm to
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There's still way more driver and overheating issues that crop up than there should be - particularly with the higher wattage thunderbolt laptops


Has nothing to do with Windows though. The manufacturers that cheap out on shite like this ruin a lot of what Microsoft has to offer
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66443 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:42 pm to
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frick apple for doing this shite all the time.


For patching their network for your safety/privacy?
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11218 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 1:36 am to
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Apples are made to die rapidly. I would never buy a Mac.

Ummm...What? I've got Macs still running long after the Windows box is out on the street for garbage...Meanwhile older Macs have fantastic resale value.

Have you ever even owned one?
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 3:23 am
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 7:34 am to
8 years Is rapidly?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:40 am to
My mac is at least 9 years old. Never had an issue. Bought a dell computer about 4 years ago for my son to play around on and do school work. It’s so slow it just sits collecting dust. We’ve reboot it multiple times thinking there must be a virus. It’s just crap.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:10 am to
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My mac is at least 9 years old. Never had an issue. Bought a dell computer about 4 years ago for my son to play around on and do school work. It’s so slow it just sits collecting dust. We’ve reboot it multiple times thinking there must be a virus. It’s just crap.


this post tells me 2 things:

1. you have not updated your mac to the latest OS because its no secret apple doesn't give a shite about older devices and in fact they make more money from their base by forcing the concept of 'fake obsolescence' (just look at the # of people this thread thinking a 9 year old computer should be taken out in the backyard & shot) because they ignore optimizations and impact on older hardware when designing new OS updates.

FACT

2. You don't sound like the type of person a PC is designed for.

quote:

Bought a dell computer about 4 years ago for my son to play around on and do school work


clearly you bought this with bias in mind from the start. you probably let your son download games & shite until he killed it. i bet you $100 i can reformat that machine & put Windows 10 on it and have it zipping along.

Microsoft understands not everyone in the world can live on the apple '3 year update' plan so they take great pains to squeeze as much out of older hardware as possible when releasing major OS updates. Again, I'm running a 9 year old PC as a server AS WE SPEAK and its incredible. Absolutely no reason for me to upgrade it just because 'its 9 years old'.

eta i have a drawer full of old iphones & ipads right now because my wife and daughters love them but EVERY SINGLE ONE is in the drawer..not because they're broken..but because Apple BRICKED THEM with iOS updates. because apple is the 'only game in town' they *FORCE* you to update or you lose access to every major app. i couldn't even download a calculator app for the ipad because of the older OS version it was running. A frickING CALCULATOR APP. iPad was zippy and no reason at all to replace it but i was forced to because you could no longer install 90% of apps because the os was 'too old'. 30 minute update later and the ipad went in to the trash. frick YOU APPLE.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14447 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:30 am to
This thread makes me wanna boot up my old 2011 and see if the update bricks it.

I wiped it clean to sell it recently, but haven't yet. Once I wiped it of the garbage it was running as fast as day 1.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:48 am to
I have a 2010 macbook, updated ram and popped an ssd inside a couple of years ago. Runs like new...

But frick apple. I have enough brick ipads around. Hate the way apple forces upgrades and defaults to import photos into iphoto, etc.

I have another 2009 that I wiped cleaned and have been running elementaryOS and so far I like it.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:35 am to
Looks like if the 8gb ram I have 7.32 is being used. This is new, any ideas how to free up ram? I’m not certain if this computer will accept bigger than 2 4gb sticks of Ram idk.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:37 am to
I bought a cheap SSD for my 2012 MacBook and it's ran like a champ ever since.
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