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re: Zlatan: MLS can never reach the level of European soccer leagues with salary cap in place
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:10 pm to cwil177
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:10 pm to cwil177
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Are you sure? I thought they have had these trickle down payments for a while now
FIFA has had it for a while, MLS just recently agreed to participate.
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:16 pm to pvilleguru
That’s what I thought. My argument was that these payments exist other places and don’t discourage player purchases.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:23 pm to cwil177
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My argument was that these payments exist other places and don’t discourage player purchases.
Or is it that just about every other country was already participating, so they really didn't have many options? Now that the US is participating, the fear is that (for example) a German team will choose to sign a German kid over an American kid now that they will both cost money if they are later transferred to a foreign league.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:29 pm to pvilleguru
Even for superstars the payments are tiny. I think Pulisic’s team would have gotten 500k or something. Maybe 2 mil. In either case it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the fee as a whole.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:36 pm to cwil177
Maybe so, but it's still an advantage that is no longer there.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:41 pm to pvilleguru
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Maybe so, but it's still an advantage that is no longer there.
Potential tradeoff is a better domestic product from academies with bigger budgets, no?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:50 pm to cwil177
Part of their complaint is also about the MLS clubs' territory rules, essentially locking most academy players to one club. If there are fewer offers from overseas, then these kids are almost forced to accept whatever contract the local MLS club offers. Without an offer from Europe to compete against, what's stopping MLS clubs from offering the absolute minimum?
Posted on 7/25/19 at 3:58 pm to pvilleguru
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Part of their complaint is also about the MLS clubs' territory rules, essentially locking most academy players to one club. If there are fewer offers from overseas, then these kids are almost forced to accept whatever contract the local MLS club offers. Without an offer from Europe to compete against, what's stopping MLS clubs from offering the absolute minimum?
I can see that. There are also a million leagues in Europe in addition to a few worth while outside. I guess it might be more of a problem with getting shopped.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 4:07 pm to GhostofJackson
Some leagues have their own problems. Eredivisie club's have to pay non-EU players a very large salary.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 8:53 pm to pvilleguru
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Maybe so, but it's still an advantage that is no longer there.
Sure, but those fees aren’t going to deter a good team from snapping up guys like Pomykal. Only difference is now the clubs that developed him have more $$$ to put back into developing more players here. For the grassroots fan it’s a great step in the right direction.
Posted on 7/25/19 at 8:54 pm to pvilleguru
I think that teams calling dibs on a region is coming to an end here shortly.
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:06 am to cwil177
Pomykal won’t draw half the fee that he’s worth because the Hunts are terrified of sitting on another window. he’ll probably go for 4-8 mil. idk what his “transfer rumor” value is but I wouldn’t let him go for less than 15-20 until this winter or next summer
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:48 am to WinnPtiger
There is basically zero chance he goes for 15-20. I think if someone offers 10 you take it, happily. NYRB only got 3 for Tyler Adams, although they will get a pretty substantial sell on bonus.
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:16 am to cwil177
We're hosting the WC in 7 years. Enthusiasm for soccer will be at an all-time high in this country around that point, especially if we can find a way to not screw it up and have a good showing. We need to have a solid youth system in place by then in order to develop top tier athletes. I don't buy into the US not being able to stand up to top tier countries. It might take 20 years, but having more academies, getting rid of pay to play, and kids getting more exposure to the sport will go a long way. The MLS can be a top 7 league by 2026 I believe.
Posted on 7/26/19 at 11:25 am to cwil177
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There is basically zero chance he goes for 15-20
and that's exactly why I want to keep him
fandom knows no realism
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:22 am to Hester Carries
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love soccer and i dont want to watch a developmental league. Why would a casual?
Because it’s a lot easier to go to the matches in person than it is to go to Europe.
I mean college football is a developmental league and I prefer it over the NFL.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 10:40 am to inelishaitrust
quote:it's not a developmental league if the teams are trying to win as independent entities...
mean college football is a developmental league and I prefer it over the NFL.
Now minor league baseball, minor league hockey, G league basketball, and soccer when reserve teams of big clubs play, those are developmental leagues
Posted on 7/28/19 at 11:30 am to chalmetteowl
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it's not a developmental league if the teams are trying to win as independent entities... Now minor league baseball, minor league hockey, G league basketball, and soccer when reserve teams of big clubs play, those are developmental leagues
It’s semantics. Either way, CFB and MLS are local non-elite versions of a sport that I like to watch. I love soccer and football and I don’t need to watch the best team in the world play on a regular basis to enjoy it.
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