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Why does the Hex 4th place team have to play New Zealand?

Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:18 am
Posted by geauxtigersfromcali
Fresno, California
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:18 am
A little confused by that.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:20 am to
It's a final qualification round. Think of it like the Premier League...The first three automatically qualify for Champions League, and the fourth place team has to play a qualifying round to get in. New Zealand is that other side.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:21 am to
Because the Oceania Federation is a joke, so the winner (New Zealand) has to play a two-leg playoff with the 4th place CONCACAF team to qualify for the tournament.

Australia now qualifies with Asia.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:22 am
Posted by geauxtigersfromcali
Fresno, California
Member since Sep 2007
2255 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:21 am to
quote:

It's a final qualification round. Think of it like the Premier League...The first three automatically qualify for Champions League, and the fourth place team has to play a qualifying round to get in. New Zealand is that other side.


Ahh alright gotcha. Thank you

quote:

Because the Oceania Federation is a joke, so the winner (New Zealand) has to play a two-leg playoff to qualify for the tournament.


aint that the truth though!!
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:22 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83374 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:22 am to
quote:

A little confused by that.


Because the OFC region is so shitty with Australia gone that they don't deserve a guaranteed bid.

Is it a little disingenuous to the phrase "World Cup"? Yes.

Does it make the competition better? Potentially, yes.
Posted by geauxtigersfromcali
Fresno, California
Member since Sep 2007
2255 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:23 am to
Thank you all. Thats crazy. So does New Zealand not go through the difficulty of qualification games while the rest of the world is working their butts off? sheesh if so
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:29 am to
No, they do, but they get to play teams like Tahiti.

Remember how Tahiti was in the Conferedations Cup. That was because New Zealand fricked up and lost to New Caledonia in the semis of the OFC Nations Cup. Then Tahiti beat New Caledonia in the final.

ETA: Am I developing dyslexia... Conferedations? Seriously?
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:37 am
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:31 am to
This is the shitty 14 country qualifying group.

American Samoa
Cook Islands
Fiji
Kiribati
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Niue
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Solomon Islands
Tahiti
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu

Kiribati, Niue, and Tuvalu are not even official FIFA members.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:34 am
Posted by geauxtigersfromcali
Fresno, California
Member since Sep 2007
2255 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:35 am to
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This is the shitty 14 country qualifying group. American Samoa Cook Islands Fiji Kiribati New Caledonia New Zealand Niue Papua New Guinea Samoa Solomon Islands Tahiti Tonga Tuvalu Vanuatu


Wow that is horrible!! you would think they would've coasted.thats sad

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No, they do, but they get to play teams like Tahiti. Remember how Tahiti was in the Conferedations Cup. That was because New Zealand fricked up and lost to New Caledonia in the semis of the OFC Nations Cup. Then Tahiti beat New Caledonia in the final.


Alright. was about to say how unfair that is lol
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:36 am
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 1:01 am to
How many confederations went through WC 2010 undefeated? Oh, that's right, one ... Oceania.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21119 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Is it a little disingenuous to the phrase "World Cup"? Yes.


I disagree. They have their chance. It's not like FIFA is shutting someone out.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83374 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:30 am to
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I disagree. They have their chance. It's not like FIFA is shutting someone out.


But now there is a 50/50 chance that an entire region of the world is not represented in the tournament.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:38 am to
Technically they are, just maybe not the finals held in Brazil...
Posted by itawambadog
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:41 am to
When Australia was in the OFC didn't they beat American Samoa 32-0? I honestly thing the whole confederation should merge with Asia.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21119 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:46 pm to
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But now there is a 50/50 chance that an entire region of the world is not represented in the finals tournament.


I'm not just trying to nitpick here. I consider the bold addition to be significant. They may not make the field of 32, but their confederation has a shot to put someone in the tournament. I wouldn't argue they should get more of a chance than they have.

We saw Tahiti in the Confederation's Cup. I acknowledge that they aren't necessarily the best representative of the OFC and that New Zealand did manage to get three results in the last World Cup. That said, if your confederation champion puts up a goal differential of -23 in three games against teams that don't even take you seriously or try that hard, I think it's fair that you have to do a little bit more than best the likes of the Solomon Islands to qualify for the finals tournament.

I should clarify that I know you aren't trying to defend the OFC or even argue that they deserve a spot in Brazil. It's just my personal opinion that an extremely weak region failing to land a participant in the final 32 doesn't cheapen the title of "World" Cup.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted by 4CEofN8URE
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Member since Sep 2011
119 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 1:12 pm to
I know in the past the 4th place CONCACAF team had the intercontinental playoff with the 5th place CONMEBOL team. At first I thought it was different this time around since a South American country is hosting, but after looking it up, the 5th place CONMEBOL team still has a playoff with the 5th place Asian team.

Anyone know why the intercontinental playoffs rotate so much? Looking back to 2010 and 2006, it seems it changes every World Cup. Any method to the madness?

2014

2010

2006

ETA: Found the answer from 2014 link:

A draw determined the pairings between the four teams involved.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 6:14 pm
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