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Why do players often come nowhere close to the goal when taking a decent shot?
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:55 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:55 am
I’m fairly new to soccer.. this is the first year I’ve watched religiously. One thing that is frustrating is when a guy has a good look somewhere in or around the box, and takes a shot and isn’t even anywhere close. They’ll kick it 20 feet high and wide. These are professionals and the goal is pretty big. I cannot understand why they are not able to put a shot decently on target. I understand missing by a bit if you were trying to sneak one inside of the post. But to completely sail it and miss by 20 feet baffles me.
I’m constantly impressed by the precision of the passing. I’m often annoyed at the lack of precision in finishing.
I’m constantly impressed by the precision of the passing. I’m often annoyed at the lack of precision in finishing.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 7:00 am
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:02 am to PrimeTime Money
This post brought to you by: someone who has never played.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:05 am to PrimeTime Money
Because like any sport. It's not as easy as it looks.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:10 am to kengel2
By OP’s standards, NBA players should never miss open 3’s, PGA players should never miss a fairway.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:12 am to PrimeTime Money
Same principle in baseball - small centimeter tweaks can alter trajectory. When swinging the bat, dipping your shoulder or pulling your head ever so slightly can either result in swinging wildly, or alter the trajectory of the ball.
In soccer, not leaning over your kick, or not planting well beforehand is a game of millimeters that can either result on frame or 20ft over the bar.
Similar in geometry or physics, one degree of course within initial contact can result completely off course over time.
In soccer, not leaning over your kick, or not planting well beforehand is a game of millimeters that can either result on frame or 20ft over the bar.
Similar in geometry or physics, one degree of course within initial contact can result completely off course over time.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:13 am to jordan21210
quote:I was pretty clear about that. In fact, it was the very first thing I said.
This post brought to you by: someone who has never played.
So again.. why is the passing generally so accurate yet the shots taken so often not even close. I completely understand missing. It’s the shots that aren’t even anywhere close that I have trouble understanding.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:19 am to jordan21210
quote:No. The equivalent would be if NBA players constantly shot it over the backboard or missed by 2 feet. Or if PGA players often shanked it to the next hole over.
By OP’s standards, NBA players should never miss open 3’s, PGA players should never miss a fairway.
I understand missing. I don’t understand missing by 20 feet.
But obviously I’m missing something and clearly it isn’t easy as it happens so often.
I’m not some soccer hater trying to talk crap. I like soccer and I’m honestly curious about this question.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:23 am to Alyosha
quote:So if a professional player was practicing on his own and taking those same shots with nobody around and an empty net, how accurate would he be? Would he be sailing them 20 feet over regularly?
Same principle in baseball - small centimeter tweaks can alter trajectory. When swinging the bat, dipping your shoulder or pulling your head ever so slightly can either result in swinging wildly, or alter the trajectory of the ball.
In soccer, not leaning over your kick, or not planting well beforehand is a game of millimeters that can either result on frame or 20ft over the bar.
Similar in geometry or physics, one degree of course within initial contact can result completely off course over time.
Or would he be putting it in the net or missing slightly?
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 7:25 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:27 am to PrimeTime Money
He’d probably be more accurate since he’d have more time to think ahead, and less pressure with an impending defender. Again, same concept in shooting a practice free throw or hitting a golf ball on the range.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:37 am to PrimeTime Money
I’ve wondered the same thing and also did not play competitively, but it blows my mind how inconsistent it can seem. Sometimes these guys have perfect touch and can place the ball wherever they want and then others it’s way off target.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:43 am to PrimeTime Money
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The equivalent would be if NBA players constantly shot it over the backboard or missed by 2 feet. Or if PGA players often shanked it to the next hole over.
No, actually this is a bad comparison. What do you think the result would be if goaltending wasn't a thing and you had to shoot running at a full sprint while 4 guys could stop your shot before it got to the rim?
You can't lob the ball into the back of the net, you have to get it through the defenders and past the keeper. You have to shoot it with pace/power to beat the previously mentioned. Or in basketball, you'd have to throw it as hard as you can so no one touched the ball and send it off course before it went in the rim. Also take away the back board and see what that looks like.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:44 am to PrimeTime Money
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So if a professional player was practicing on his own and taking those same shots with nobody around and an empty net, how accurate would he be? Would he be sailing them 20 feet over regularly?
No
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:51 am to JMTIGER85
I've had the same thoughts but I guess it's because the power and precision it takes to actually beat a professional keeper forces you over do it leaving no margin for error.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:56 am to RandySavage
Right - it's much more nuanced then it sounds. Even in a penalty situation, take away the players that wait until the last second for the keeper to move and pass it in, you still have to kick it with pace and accuracy to score what is considered "easy".
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:07 am to PrimeTime Money
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So again.. why is the passing generally so accurate yet the shots taken so often not even close.
Because like every professional sport, it’s nowhere near as easy as it sounds. Others have mentioned, they’re looking to shoot with pace and precision which often results in one or the other but not both. Plus they’re shooting, at times, in a sprint, coming off a sprint, or with a defender one step behind. It’s really difficult.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:45 am to PrimeTime Money
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So again.. why is the passing generally so accurate yet the shots taken so often not even close. I completely understand missing. It’s the shots that aren’t even anywhere close that I have trouble understanding.
The baseball guy made a good analogy. But basically you’re trying to hit a moving target(the ball). Changing the point of contact changes trajectory massively. Also the power affects the route of the ball. If you hit it hard enough you can get a bend on the ball on certain shots. However if you hit it too hard it can go terrible wrong.
Couple all that with if the ball pops up or moves right at the last second, you don’t get your knee all the way over the ball. There are multiple factors all greatly effecting the trajectory all very hard to get right.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 8:48 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 8:54 am to PrimeTime Money
The best part about that in the UK is when the fans respond by throwing up their arms and shouting HEEEEEEEEEEYYYYY
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:04 am to PrimeTime Money
The game at that level moves at such a fast pace that the actual time to get a shot off is so short that often they don’t hit it clean.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:39 am to PrimeTime Money
You can run faster without the ball than with it
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:13 pm to PrimeTime Money
The difference between a knuckling piss missile and a catapulted turd into the stands is like an eighth of an inch.
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