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re: what Portugal did was one of the dumbest things i have ever saw
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:16 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:16 pm to dgnx6
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He wouldnt have made it. Dude is good, but not the best from the spot.
Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers tomorrow?
Ronaldo has been the second best PK taker in major leagues the past two. 23/25 is pretty fricking good when the professional average is around 79%.
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Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:34 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Statistics are never right
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:50 pm to joey barton
Ronaldo should have taken the first PK so Portugal could have lost a minute later than they did!
You never make 100 percent of the penalties you take. Or something like that.
You never make 100 percent of the penalties you take. Or something like that.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:52 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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Ronaldo should have taken the first PK so Portugal could have lost a minute later than they did!
Huh?
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:56 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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I still think the captain goes first.
I was debating this with a friend today. Today, especially after Xabi missed his first, I feel the captain should have stepped in and set the stage. Golden opportunity for Ronaldo wasted. My personal preference would be to have your best player take his shot first or 3rd.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:57 pm to dgnx6
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He wouldnt have made it. Dude is good, but not the best from the spot.
Sheesh, one miss in a CL semifinal will ruin your reputation.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:59 pm to Meursault
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My personal preference would be to have your best player take his shot first or 3rd.
I think the only thing that matters is too have your three best pk takers go first through third. These are the only slots where are you guaranteed to take a shot.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:02 pm to Friend of OBUDan
I honestly don't really believe that so many people truly analyze an exercise that comes under so much fire
I thought that Pepe hit a great penalty and Alves hit the bar. They obviously took a penalty for a reason
I thought that Pepe hit a great penalty and Alves hit the bar. They obviously took a penalty for a reason
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:04 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Well, if Ronaldo had taken it first, Alves still would have eventually and Portugal probably would have lost, though admit I can't read alternate realities well. I think the whole thing has been overblown. Spain had their best take the last PK and no one cared. Blame the guys who missed it, not CR7.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:12 pm to Meursault
order is set beforehand, no?
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:18 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Yes, the manager/coach submits a list in order prior to the start.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:37 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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I think the whole thing has been overblown. Spain had their best take the last PK and no one cared. Blame the guys who missed it, not CR7.
Agree that it is a bit overblown.
I'd also add that the difference between Alves' kick bouncing in and Cesc's bouncing out was probably less than 6 inches combined.
It's hard to focus so much on strategy when that was the difference between Spain winning and CR7 taking his for the victory.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:39 pm to Friend of OBUDan
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Well, if Ronaldo had taken it first, Alves still would have eventually and Portugal probably would have lost, though admit I can't read alternate realities well.
Yea, this really isn't possible to predict.
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Spain had their best take the last PK and no one cared. Blame the guys who missed it, not CR7.
You want your captain, your leader to step up and set an example for the rest of the team by taking one of the first 3 PKs. Everyone has talked about the effect Pirlo's PK had on Italy, and Ronaldo had the opportunity to do something similar. Step up, drill the PK and show your team how simple it is. With that said, Xabi is Spain's designated PK taker and he stepped up and took his first. It is pretty easy to see how your odds improve when your best PK taker takes one of the first 3.
And just a side note, Cesc told reporters after the game that del Bosque wanted him to go second but he refused and opted for the 5 spot because of a "premonition." Ronaldo told reporters he also chose to go 5th.
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:11 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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I think the only thing that matters is too have your three best pk takers go first through third. These are the only slots where are you guaranteed to take a shot.
This is the correct answer. Your best shooters go first to guarantee they get to shoot. I mean, we're talking having Bruno freaking Alves take a PK...or Ronaldo. This should be a no brainer here, and they flubbed it.
Posted on 6/28/12 at 2:39 am to AUin02
Whoever made the decision, lining Ronaldo up fifth was truly poor strategy.
This post was edited on 6/28/12 at 5:01 am
Posted on 6/28/12 at 7:19 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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And just a side note, Cesc told reporters after the game that del Bosque wanted him to go second but he refused and opted for the 5 spot because of a "premonition." Ronaldo told reporters he also chose to go 5th.
So anything we lambast Ronaldo for we must also put the same towards Cesc.
Posted on 6/28/12 at 8:55 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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Yes, the manager/coach submits a list in order prior to the start.
not the FIFA rule anymore. Unless the rules of the specific competition/league stipulate otherwise, it is not necessary to designate the order of kickers or even the actual kickers. Not sure if UEFA has a set rule beyond FIFA for this competition. Under FIFA laws, requirements are: only players on field at end of time can take kick; if one team is short-handed, other team has to reduce to equal number of participants; and all eligible players must take kick before any player can take a second kick.
Posted on 6/28/12 at 9:42 am to WarSlamEagle
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Sheesh, missing in a CL final AND semifinal will ruin your reputation.
fify
Posted on 6/28/12 at 10:01 am to fightingtigers98
I can't disagree with Ronaldo going 5th. You can't predict scenarios in PKs & if Fabregas misses his PK, then all of the pressure goes to the last shooter. So in that case, you want it to be Ronaldo. It was just unlucky that it didn't get down to that point. Bento said his lineup was Moutinho, Pepe, Nani, Alves, and Ronaldo, so I'm not sure if you can just change that on the spot.
As far as strategy goes, there really is no way to see if your strongest kicker should go 1st,3rd, or 5th. It's purely luck. In the CL final, Chelsea went with Drogba at 5th and it worked out for them. Just didn't work for Portugal this time.
As far as strategy goes, there really is no way to see if your strongest kicker should go 1st,3rd, or 5th. It's purely luck. In the CL final, Chelsea went with Drogba at 5th and it worked out for them. Just didn't work for Portugal this time.
Posted on 6/28/12 at 10:09 am to AzoresTiger1
I would guarantee that he is taking a shot. That's the strategy. Don't leave your best player watching. Have him shoot and set the tone. My view is that you want to win it before you even get to your 5th kicker so put your best guys first.
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