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What is your ideal US starting XI at this point?
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:26 pm
SBI put this one out and I kind of like it. Pulisic is probably better out wide but in this formation is likely interchangeable with Reyna. Would be nice to get Musah in there somehow but I'm sure he would be a great spark off the bench.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:35 pm to cwil177
Put Musah in the middle, move Pulisic to the left wing and I’m good with everything else. I realize that puts Gio on the bench, but I think you gain more having Pulisic playing his club position, and musah in the middle. There’s a handful of players, Gio included, that you could talk about for the RW position instead of morris, but I have no problem with Morris starting there right now.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:41 pm to cwil177
Steffen
Cannon - Long - Brooks - Dest
Adams
Morris- McKennie - Reyna - Pulisic
Jozy
Zimmerman and Miazga are my 1b/1c options at RCB. Love all three of those guys next to Brooks, but Miazga is the lowest option of the three.
Love the idea of McKennie running roughshod through the MF box-to-box, with Reyna free-roaming in an advanced mid/number 10 slot.
Pulisic on left wing and Morris on the right.
Jozy is still a better hold up player and passer than Sargent right now, so combining that with Reyna and the two wingers running in behind is our best current option if you ask me. Add in overlaps from Dest and Cannon and we have tons of options.
Call it what you will, a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-1-3-2, but I think this would give most teams fits and with actual chemistry being a focus could launch the USMNT into the fricking stratosphere.
Edit: Did this without Musah since he hasn’t been cap tied. If Musah comes into the equation, I think one of either Gio/Morris is the odd man out (likely Morris).
That would give us probably a 4-1-2-3 or a 4-5-1 with Pulisic and Gio/Morris on the wings complementing Jozy with their runs.
Cannon - Long - Brooks - Dest
Adams
Morris- McKennie - Reyna - Pulisic
Jozy
Zimmerman and Miazga are my 1b/1c options at RCB. Love all three of those guys next to Brooks, but Miazga is the lowest option of the three.
Love the idea of McKennie running roughshod through the MF box-to-box, with Reyna free-roaming in an advanced mid/number 10 slot.
Pulisic on left wing and Morris on the right.
Jozy is still a better hold up player and passer than Sargent right now, so combining that with Reyna and the two wingers running in behind is our best current option if you ask me. Add in overlaps from Dest and Cannon and we have tons of options.
Call it what you will, a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-1-3-2, but I think this would give most teams fits and with actual chemistry being a focus could launch the USMNT into the fricking stratosphere.
Edit: Did this without Musah since he hasn’t been cap tied. If Musah comes into the equation, I think one of either Gio/Morris is the odd man out (likely Morris).
That would give us probably a 4-1-2-3 or a 4-5-1 with Pulisic and Gio/Morris on the wings complementing Jozy with their runs.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:52 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Swap CP and Gio and I’m fine with it.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:20 pm to DByrd2
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Put Musah in the middle, move Pulisic to the left wing and I’m good with everything else. I realize that puts Gio on the bench, but I think you gain more having Pulisic playing his club position, and musah in the middle.
I’m inclined to agree- Gio can always be a spark off the bench. But I do like what he adds to our attack, and Musah isn’t fully committed yet, so I am hesitant to pencil him in.
quote:
Cannon - Long - Brooks - Dest
I like this but kind of want to see Zimmerman where Long is. I think Miazga is better than Long but god damn does he do some stupid shite sometimes. That said he brings a nastiness and CONCACAFiness that I love. We haven’t had that since Jones and Dempsey were in the team.
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Jozy is still a better hold up player and passer than Sargent right now, so combining that with Reyna and the two wingers running in behind is our best current option if you ask me.
I agree with this in theory but Jozy is a bigger cripple than Pulisic these days. His hold up and combo play is clutch with our fast runners like Pulisic and Morris, plus late runs from McKennie and possibly Musah. Sargent is pretty decent at this though, if anyone watches (suffers through) his Werder Bremen games.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:27 pm to lynxcat
Steffen
Dest-Zimmerman-Brooks-Robinson
Adams
McKennie-Musah
Reyna-Jozy-Pulisic
- Really like what Reggie Cannon brings, but I'm not ready to give up on Robinson yet after one game where he was playing in a downpour. Also Dest is out best RB and LB, and he will be a force regardless, but I want our best players to be in their best positions.
- Adams at the 6 is so damn important because he can cover so much ground and allows for Musah and McKennie to attack more. I saw enough of those three in the midfield this past week to lock them in as the first choice for the next 2 cycles (PLEASE CHOOSE US YUNUS.)
- Reyna and Pulisic are autostarts if they are healthy.
- We're reaching Some frick territory at striker. Jozy is still the best option if he's healthy because of his hold up play but I'm not as passionate about playing him there as I have been in the past. Sargent, Weah, Gioachinni, Johannsson, Soto, Dike, Akinola and yes... Zardes are all options.
Backups
Horvath/Turner
Cannon-Richards-Miazga-Some frick
Yueill
Aaronson-Lletget
Weah-Johannsson-Morris
Dest-Zimmerman-Brooks-Robinson
Adams
McKennie-Musah
Reyna-Jozy-Pulisic
- Really like what Reggie Cannon brings, but I'm not ready to give up on Robinson yet after one game where he was playing in a downpour. Also Dest is out best RB and LB, and he will be a force regardless, but I want our best players to be in their best positions.
- Adams at the 6 is so damn important because he can cover so much ground and allows for Musah and McKennie to attack more. I saw enough of those three in the midfield this past week to lock them in as the first choice for the next 2 cycles (PLEASE CHOOSE US YUNUS.)
- Reyna and Pulisic are autostarts if they are healthy.
- We're reaching Some frick territory at striker. Jozy is still the best option if he's healthy because of his hold up play but I'm not as passionate about playing him there as I have been in the past. Sargent, Weah, Gioachinni, Johannsson, Soto, Dike, Akinola and yes... Zardes are all options.
Backups
Horvath/Turner
Cannon-Richards-Miazga-Some frick
Yueill
Aaronson-Lletget
Weah-Johannsson-Morris
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:37 pm to cwil177
I just love that we played 3 matches in 2020 and we were a pressing team in all of them.
I've given Gregg a lot of shite, but his tactics have been fun this year.
I've given Gregg a lot of shite, but his tactics have been fun this year.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:12 pm to cwil177
It's still crazy to me that the SF era is over. Well, maybe it's just moved positions now.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:19 pm to jackwoods4
quote:
It's still crazy to me that the SF era is over. Well, maybe it's just moved positions now.
Striker has quietly been ripe with Some frickery.
It would not surprise me if we handle 2022 the same way we handled 2010 and just take to Qatar whoever is scoring the most goals for their club at that time. (Edson Buddle, TYFYS)
You could literally make a case to bring 2 or 3 of any of those guys I listed a few posts up to bring to the World Cup. No one has the upper hand on anyone else. Not even Jozy who is the oldest of that bunch and has been hurt more than he's been healthy in the last 3 years.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:40 pm to jackwoods4
quote:
It's still crazy to me that the SF era is over. Well, maybe it's just moved positions now
Some frick can play almost anywhere depth is thin. He’s more of a utility player, now that I think about it.
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:45 pm to cwil177
Hard for me to make a first choice 11 without Musah in at after watching him.
Our weakest position is a true number 9, so I wouldn't be upset if Greg tinkered with a false 9 formation and slotted Gio or CP in that spot.
Pulisic-------------------------Morris
---------------Reyna---------
Musah-------Adams----------Mckennie
Dest------Brooks------Miazga-----Yedlin
Our weakest position is a true number 9, so I wouldn't be upset if Greg tinkered with a false 9 formation and slotted Gio or CP in that spot.
Pulisic-------------------------Morris
---------------Reyna---------
Musah-------Adams----------Mckennie
Dest------Brooks------Miazga-----Yedlin
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:57 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Yedlin
How?
Posted on 11/19/20 at 6:13 am to cwil177
No way Musah doesn’t start.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 6:14 am to PhilipMarlowe
No way Reyna doesn’t start.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 6:27 am to GeismarGeauxer
quote:He won't be starting if he plays like he did in these last two games.
No way Reyna doesn’t start.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:03 am to Broski
I think he’s still our second best fullback and with Adams sitting deep and providing cover for the CBs his skillset is a useful one in this side. Despite the talent in this group there isn’t a ton of pace outside of Pulisic. I think Yedlin making overlapping runs on the opposite side of Dest makes us toughest to defend, and he isn’t going to be overwhelmed by anything.
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:05 am to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:I think Cannon is easily better than Yedlin. Much better defensively, good crosser, and can still take on players one-on-one even though he's not going to try it every time.
I think he’s still our second best fullback
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:43 am to SeeeeK
Not sure why that is laugh worthy... it’s basically a flip between he and Sargent right now.
Hopefully Dike shows up and establishes himself in some form or fashion. He could be the missing link this team needs up top.
Hopefully Dike shows up and establishes himself in some form or fashion. He could be the missing link this team needs up top.
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