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re: What exactly is going on with Pulisic?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:09 pm to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:09 pm to Keys Open Doors
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You don’t think Chelsea is a more high profile team than Dortmund?
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 10:53 pm to Shane4689
The real German club will be needing to replace a couple of players. I think Pulisic would thrive under Kovac in Munich.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:08 pm to Loaner1231
Well no one is really thriving under him right now 
Posted on 12/18/18 at 11:15 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Well no one is really thriving under him right now
Shhhhh. I’m trying to convince myself the down year in Bundesliga just means Bayern will finally win Champions League again.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 8:23 am to crazy4lsu
quote:True. Arsenal need some wings. Mkhitaryan is about to be 30 and declining. Iwobi is still progressing, but may be better off in the middle in the long run. I hear Reiss Nelson is having a good year in the Bundesliga also.
He'd start for Arsenal on the right side.
Posted on 12/19/18 at 9:12 am to Shane4689
I've heard it rumored that his decreased playing time is partially due to a sale already being agreed to.
This would decrease his playing time to avoid injury in the interest of the buying club, and the selling club would want to decrease his playing time because they'd want to give their "own" players more minutes.
This would decrease his playing time to avoid injury in the interest of the buying club, and the selling club would want to decrease his playing time because they'd want to give their "own" players more minutes.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:32 am to Shane4689
Word out of Spain is that Atletico recently approached Dortmund to inquire and were told he'd already been sold.
I don't think his development has been materially stunted at all nor do I see much reason to conclude that. Even last year he got about 8th/9th most minutes amongst the midfielders and Sancho got twice as many Bundesliga minutes. It's not like he was an entrenched member of the starting XI and got dethroned. Fitness can't be overlooked but his lack of minutes isn't because he's been rubbish.
- Pair of injuries that largely sidelined him for the first 2 months
- Fellow young superstar in the same role was world-class in his absence and has continued same
- BVB roster is one of the absolute deepest in the world and they're all extremely versatile; a few lineups on-par with the difficulty he faces (City, Liverpool, Barca), but hard to argue many are more competitive
It is not surprising that Favre is not eager to tinker with a lineup that has been absolutely shredding in Pulisic's absence. They have a legit shot at the Champions League.
Sale or loan makes sense for all parties. He's always been destined for the Premiership, as the US superstar he will earn his club well over whatever above-market transfer fee has to be paid to secure him.
ETA: Dortmund lost their first Bundesliga game Tuesday. Pulisic started, Sancho didn't.
I don't think his development has been materially stunted at all nor do I see much reason to conclude that. Even last year he got about 8th/9th most minutes amongst the midfielders and Sancho got twice as many Bundesliga minutes. It's not like he was an entrenched member of the starting XI and got dethroned. Fitness can't be overlooked but his lack of minutes isn't because he's been rubbish.
- Pair of injuries that largely sidelined him for the first 2 months
- Fellow young superstar in the same role was world-class in his absence and has continued same
- BVB roster is one of the absolute deepest in the world and they're all extremely versatile; a few lineups on-par with the difficulty he faces (City, Liverpool, Barca), but hard to argue many are more competitive
It is not surprising that Favre is not eager to tinker with a lineup that has been absolutely shredding in Pulisic's absence. They have a legit shot at the Champions League.
Sale or loan makes sense for all parties. He's always been destined for the Premiership, as the US superstar he will earn his club well over whatever above-market transfer fee has to be paid to secure him.
ETA: Dortmund lost their first Bundesliga game Tuesday. Pulisic started, Sancho didn't.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:46 am to RemouladeSawce
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- Fellow young superstar in the same role was world-class in his absence and has continued same
- BVB roster is one of the absolute deepest in the world and they're all extremely versatile; a few lineups on-par with the difficulty he faces (City, Barca), but hard to argue many are more competitive
Yup. Although youll be mocked by certain try-hards here for saying Sancho is world class
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:54 am to SirWinston
quote:I don't know if Sancho himself is truly world-class yet but for this season he inarguably is. At the absolute worst he's been Top 5 in all of the Bundesliga.
Although youll be mocked by certain try-hards here for saying Sancho is world class
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:56 am to StraightCashHomey21
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He would be a squad player on any top six club right now
as opposed to....being a squad player at dortmund?
Klopp has a proven track record of developing young players.
Sarri has a proven track record of utilizing the exact type of player that Pulisic is. I think at this point, saying Dortmund is "what's best" for him is arguably just a lazy and outdated opinion. I think he needs a change of scenery personally.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:57 am to SirWinston
No, you'll be mocked for saying he's a top five player in the world when Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Hazard, Neymar, De Bruyne, Salah, Kante, Aguero, Kane, Modric, Suarez, Godin, Marcelo, De Gea, and like 40 other guys exist.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:05 pm to SirWinston
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Yup. Although youll be mocked by certain try-hards here for saying Sancho is world class
Sancho isn't top 5 or world class
you clearly don't know what world class is
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:08 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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as opposed to....being a squad player at dortmund? Klopp has a proven track record of developing young players. Sarri has a proven track record of utilizing the exact type of player that Pulisic is. I think at this point, saying Dortmund is "what's best" for him is arguably just a lazy and outdated opinion. I think he needs a change of scenery personally.
He will play more at Dortmund, Klopp was good with youth at Dortmund bc the structure of young players was there and the culture was there. At Liverpool and most the prem it is a win now business. So you don't really have the flexibility to blood young players.
This isn't a knock on Klopp or Liverpool but the facts of the situation.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:10 pm to jackwoods4
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No, you'll be mocked for saying he's a top five player in the world when Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Hazard, Neymar, De Bruyne, Salah, Kante, Aguero, Kane, Modric, Suarez, Godin, Marcelo, De Gea, and like 40 other guys exist.
he is the only try hard pretending to know anything
he probably didn't even know who we were talking about and went straight to google.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:10 pm to jackwoods4
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No, you'll be mocked for saying he's a top five player in the world when Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Hazard, Neymar, De Bruyne, Salah, Kante, Aguero, Kane, Modric, Suarez, Godin, Marcelo, De Gea, and like 40 other guys exist.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:13 pm to TheZaba
Yah I didnt say a top 5 player in the world, I said for his position and indicated I'm projecting his growth into the matter
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:17 pm to SirWinston
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Yah I didnt say a top 5 player in the world, I said for his position and indicated I'm projecting his growth into the matter
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Cant help that a top 5 player in the world is in front of him, innit?
you are fricking idiot
once again you don't even know what you post
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:31 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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So you don't really have the flexibility to blood young players
Isn't Pulisic kind of past the "blood young players" phase? He already has 115 games for Dortmund and 10 international caps under his belt.
It's very likely he would be getting more playing time at Liverpool than he's currently getting at Dortmund.
And Klopp sure hasn't minded giving TAA and Gomez as many minutes as they can handle.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:54 pm to pvilleguru
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Isn't Pulisic kind of past the "blood young players" phase? He already has 115 games for Dortmund and 10 international caps under his belt.
That would be reset at any club bc he has to prove himself
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It's very likely he would be getting more playing time at Liverpool than he's currently getting at Dortmund.
And Klopp sure hasn't minded giving TAA and Gomez as many minutes as they can handle.
Bc look at the players who are in front of TAA and Gomez. Pulisic would find more competition than those two do.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:56 pm to pvilleguru
he's got more meaningful minutes at this stage then Leroy Sane did when he transferred to City
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