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What Did You Take Away From Last Night?

Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:31 pm
I realize that Guatemala is not Mexico nor is it a South American team nor is it a European team. I also realize that many things of note that one may take away from last night's performance are essentially confirmations of what was already known by many. All that being said, here are my thoughts:

- Orozco and Alvarado should never play another game for the USMNT again. I am serious, there are just numerous better options. About ten other players would have to be incapacitated or dead for me to play either Orozco or Alvarado. Nothing against either of those guys, they are just really poor quality players and are going to get us all killed.

- The 4-3-3 can work against some teams and we look really good in it. Of course, one formation does not fit every opponent but this was a case that looked like Klinsmann actually thought about strategy and creating opportunities.

- Players in their natural and experienced positions is desirable to the alternative.

- Zusi still has a role to play in the USMNT. I realize that it is CONCACAF but Zusi can still be productive. Everything that I have read points to him being a very positive influence in the clubhouse as well.

- Bradley is at his best when coming into the attack from a deep position. I like the idea of seeing the 4-3-3 with Bradley on one side and Johnson or Nagbe on the other, both with the ability to attack up and across through the middle.

- Beckerman's age caused a couple of scary openings (of which were deftly extinguished by Yedlin coming to the rescue) but he still can be a solid obstacle sitting in front of the back line against certain opponents.

- Yedlin was my brightest player from last night. He will not be outpaced by anyone and his defense appears to have progressed to a new level of composure and technical skill. He picks his opportunities to attack forward better than previously shown and on the occasion that he does get caught too far forward his pace allows him to recover. The game appeared slow to him and he looked in complete control even in key critical moments. I watched him in several of his Sunderland performances earlier in the season where he was literally spun out of his cleats; his game presently is on a different higher level.

- Birnbaum continues to show capabilities at CB while also being a physical concern for opponents on set pieces.

- Cameron should always play CB. He is the most consistent USMNT CB from a defensive perspective and his long stride allows him to attack forward in certain moments. He can be a raging bull at times. His experience, stride, and instincts lead him to rarely be caught out of position. One of the smartest and most experienced players on the USMNT.

- Wood had a wtf moment on a miss (although it was caused by a split second lapse of concentration and momentum because he thought he was going to be called for a handball that was somehow missed by the ref) but he still shows good technical skill with the ball at his feet. If Wood had Zardes' luck he would truly be a force. We need to see more of Wood and this is a critical time for him in terms of club and country. He has made great progression and the potential is there.

- Dempsey was active and showed great movement and positioning.

- Zardes will never be able to overcome his complete lack of technical skill regarding his first touch. For every nice pass or touch (of which he had one great one last night) he produces 8-9 absolutely horrible concrete touches. He needs to touch the ball as little as possible and play as close to goal as manageable. He can be a poacher with his luck and quickness and can stretch defenses with his movement and pace. But I think his movement needs to be all around the box.

- Finlay shows great pace and ability to send crosses into the box. I am excited about his potential on the wing. He has the capability to force opponents to adapt defensively to his abilities. It is shameful that he was robbed of his first USMNT goal in front of his home crowd.

- The USMNT should never lose to Guatemala. Ever.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83345 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:33 pm to
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- Orozco and Alvarado should never play another game for the USMNT again.


Not that I disagree with this statement, but what about last night made you come to this conclusion about Alvarado. Did he not sit on the bench correctly?
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:39 pm to
After last night, the idea that there are simply better options available was further confirmed.
Posted by Shane4689
Wrong Way on a No Way Road
Member since Dec 2010
3150 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 4:47 pm to
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the idea that there are simply better options available was further confirmed.


Yedlin definitely looked more seasoned and in control last night.

Wood has movement that will agitate the opponents back line and he will open up chances for others. he is a big plus right now.

This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45352 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 6:09 pm to
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Yedlin, Wood


I bought both their jerseys today. A Wood home one and a Yedlin away.

Since I did that, I'm sure they'll somehow fade into oblivion. It's happened with Julian Green and Gooch once I bought their kits.

Gotta do my part in supporting the Nike kits, though
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 6:52 pm to
My takeaway is that the home kit is fire.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 7:09 pm to
The home kit isn't bad. I wish the blue was darker though. I like it better than our most recent blue kits.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 7:14 pm to
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Gotta do my part in supporting the Nike kits, though

Hey, the numbering didn't make that kit any better. Still completely different color blues from the shoulders.
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
4709 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 7:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69596 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 7:27 pm to
I think i watched a completely different game than you.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:04 am to
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Orozco and Alvarado should never play another game for the USMNT again. I am serious, there are just numerous better options. About ten other players would have to be incapacitated or dead for me to play either Orozco or Alvarado. Nothing against either of those guys, they are just really poor quality players and are going to get us all killed.


Agreed

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The 4-3-3 can work against some teams and we look really good in it. Of course, one formation does not fit every opponent but this was a case that looked like Klinsmann actually thought about strategy and creating opportunities


Also the fact that we pressed a shitty team which we should have done during the first game as well. It completely threw them off and led to some bad give aways and a goal. Again no clue why we didn't do this during the first game.

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Players in their natural and experienced positions is desirable to the alternative.



*nodding

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Zusi still has a role to play in the USMNT. I realize that it is CONCACAF but Zusi can still be productive. Everything that I have read points to him being a very positive influence in the clubhouse as well.



Zusi will struggle against much more athletic teams but he can do well against the Guatemalas of the world. He had a good game

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Yedlin was my brightest player from last night.


Amazing what happens when he plays a position that fits him best

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Birnbaum continues to show capabilities at CB while also being a physical concern for opponents on set pieces.


Still not sold on him though. He wasn't really tested at all the other night.

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Cameron should always play CB


CB or CDM. If all of our CBs are healthy I think we could use him at CDM in the Beckerman role and choose 2 out of Brooks, Besler and Gonzo (assuming they are all on form of course)

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Wood


His movement is terrific but I don't think the 4-3-3 suits him well when he is deployed out wide. I think his better games have come working in a 2 man front

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Zardes


Carrying the Eddie Johnson first touch torch for future generations

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Finlay


Really like what I have seen from him in his limited time. He definitely has a role in this team. Would be interested to see how he would do from the onset of a game and not as a late sub

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The USMNT should never lose to Guatemala. Ever.



This
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Gotta do my part in supporting the Nike kits, though


there is a sucker born every minute
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45352 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 8:15 am to
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there is a sucker born every minute






Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 9:09 am to
I agree, literally word for word, with everything you just wrote.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16734 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:01 am to
The way Yedlin can cover both endlines is amazing
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